Turnigy 450/500 H2223 Brushless outrunner 4400KV

 Cody f86saber 921 points

The shaft diameter is 3.17mm, and the shaft length is 16mm. Best Wishes to you.

 LEONARDO DE MACEDO 27 points

Hi, you can use 40amp esc. PRODUCT ID: KF-40A is the best.

 Zaza dan 59 points

Hi. I already have yep-80A. Just wanna know if its will work together. Simply don't want buy and burn motor. Cheers.

 vladislaw 47 points

hello! ESC 60A enough it easier and cold for NK 450. olichnaya engine!

 Zaza dan 59 points

I ALREADY HAVE 80A ESC. Will 80A ESC burn this motor or will work fine? I don't want buy another ESC. If 80AMP is too much and can burn that motor, I will buy another MOTOR probably scorpion or similar. Thanks guys! Thanks everyone who read and understand my question. Cheers!

 LEONARDO DE MACEDO 27 points

See spec. Recomended ESC: 2~4S/50A

 Cody f86saber 921 points

The 80A ESC will not harm the motor. The motor's current draw, measured in Amps, is determined by the windings of the motor itself. There is no harm in using a larger ESC. Hope this helps!

 Zaza dan 59 points

Thanks CODY f86saber! You are gentleman! Cheers!

 vladislaw 47 points

hello! bad ESC 40A just burn! ESC 60A enough it easier and cold for NC 450. ESC80A but would work too! olichnaya engine!

 Tejas 3 points

It will work in a so-so manner *) but it will be more better if you get the new motor of higher current rate, cheers and good luck (Y) :)

 Zaza dan 59 points

Hi Tejas! And which motor are you recommend for YEP 80A esc? Cheers!

 BUDDY Z28 48 points

Hey Zaza dan, to calm your mind and give a definite answer. Your 80 amp ESC , and lipo are a perfect combo on this motor....the only thing you will need is a 10 tooth pinion (3.17). This to keep your headspeed at proper speed. I used this motor on my 450 heli. Works great. Hope this helps Buddy.

 Zaza dan 59 points

Hi BUDDY Z28! Thanks for reply. Do you know how many T pinion gear will be best on trex 450, if I'm using helical pinion gear? I have 121 slant main gear installed on my 450 pro. Does is 10T normal and 10T helical same? I think it's difference but don't know too much about gears ratio. ETC.... Please help choosing helical gear. Cheers!

 BUDDY Z28 48 points

Yes zaza. They are different, look at your main gear, if the teeth are straight up and down. Then its normal. But if they angle, then you need helical.

 Zaza dan 59 points

Hi BUDDY Z28! They are with angle and 121 teeth. So I guess i need helical pinion gear. Question is : how many teeth gear I need for motor? Cheers mate

 BUDDY Z28 48 points

Will let you know for surewhen I get off work. But my 450 is normal.but the tooth count should be the same.if not ill get you the formula specs to get proper heli headspeed. Talk to you later.

 Zaza dan 59 points

Thanks buddy. You are the best. Your explanations are very good and I can't understand why your points is low. Some of people in here have best point scoring but they never answer questions properly. Cheers mate!

 BUDDY Z28 48 points

Hey zaza dan, thank you for you comment. Im more interstedin helping with the right information than points, but point are good *) What you have is TRex 450 slant,with 121tooth gear. im guessing you're new to 3D heli. If so, you dont want to mess around with expo trimming, and just install and fly. So here is the best comboTurnigy 450 H2218 Brushless outrunner 2100KV, your 2200 3 cell lipo, and your 80 amp ESC. And a 12 tooth pinion , will give you a controllable hover, yet give a good 3D flying experience. Your headspeed will be at 2300 RPM , max at 2454 RPM. Plenty of power yet not uncontrollable. Once you master your skill you can step it up. Hope this helps Buddy

 Zaza dan 59 points

You are very helpful, Nice and very friendly person! Thank you very much. Cheers BUDDY Z28!!!

 LEONARDO DE MACEDO 27 points

Voce coloca uma bateria de 3s, carregadar e ela durar somente 60segundos, e isso ? se for eu nunca vi uma perda de carga tao rapida.

 radicalrj 19 points

Descobri... 4400kv com pinhã*o e 13T é* forte demais para um 450. Troquei para um de 3500kv e resolveu...

 LEONARDO DE MACEDO 27 points

Show, eu uso Typhon 3250kv. no hk450, muito bom.

 BUDDY Z28 48 points

Hey radicalrj, im surprised your 40 amp ESC hasnt burnt. But your problem is your pinion it too big. You need a 10 tooth pinion to keep proper headspeed at this high KV. And the pinion is bogging down your motor, drawing too much amps,killing your lipo. And eventually your ESC. Hope this helps Buddy.

 Flyitall 913 points

Yes. Use 3s. RPMs wind out at about 60,000 at speed.

 Keith 41 points

Please see my answer on your other question.

 Keith 41 points

Need a little more info. What are you putting it on and what battery are you going to use to power it?

 dhiva 2 points

battery of 11.1v(3s).

 dhiva 2 points

suggest me proper esc too.

 Keith 41 points

I would use at least a 30 amp esc and yeah it should work just fine. Reverse polarity on this motor works just fine. No change in output. Very fast motor though. All my quads use 3s 11.1v but none of them are runnning a 4400 kv motor. I only use 1050kv motors on most of my quads. I hope this helps you out.

 dhiva 2 points

What will be the effect if i use it on my quad???what will be amps variation depending kv rating???

 dhiva 2 points

is it better to use turnigy 450/500 h22236-2900 with 2900kv on prop of 5x4.5" with 3 blades.

 Zaza dan 59 points

hi mate! will this motor work on trex 450 pro? i wanna use with YEP 80A esc (11.1v 2200mah 3S lipo), it is not too much? please let me know what do you think about? CHEERS!

 Flyitall 913 points

Yes. This motor will do well on an edf on 3s LiPo. The shaft is 3.175mm in diam. your edf must have a 3.175mm fan adapter,

 dermis 1 points

thanks

 Keith 41 points

I know it fits perfectly in a 450 Hk/ Align heli. Bolts right in with no modification needed. I will measure the spacing when I get home and post a specific answer for you though.

 Caco Escobar 50 points

Cabe sim Gabriel... Segundo eles eh feito para ele.

 LEONARDO DE MACEDO 27 points

Tambem tem os da Serie Turnigy Typhon 450. Sã*o muito bons. uso no meu HK450GT.

 Lucas Duba 117 points

yes. just depends on the size of plane you want ot fly.

 Caco Escobar 50 points

I guess is good for planes up to 1kg. Use small propelers due to high KV! Better for pillon racers etc...

 Zaza dan 59 points

hi mate! will this motor work on trex 450 pro? i wanna use with YEP 80A esc (11.1v 2200mah 3S lipo), it is not too much? please let me know what do you think about? CHEERS!

 Caco Escobar 50 points

If you wanna fly 3D I guess this one is good, powerfull for a 450. I use on my 2 450 the Turnigy Thypoon 2215 what I find a good combination of power and flight time for a "sport" flight... But if You want something more radical you need more power go for this... {}s, Nice Flights.

 Robert 11 points

Could be a bad ESC have you used the esc before?

 Keith 41 points

In use this motor. What Esc are you using and what Battery are you using?

 Caco Escobar 50 points

Maybe you need to program the ESC timing etc... Test with another esc as well.

 Zaza dan 59 points

hi mate! will this motor work on trex 450 pro? i wanna use with YEP 80A esc (11.1v 2200mah 3S lipo), it is not too much? please let me know what do you think about? CHEERS!

 WASHINGTON CLAUDIO 12 points

eu instalei uma 4x75 é* melhor e esc red brick 50A

 vladislaw 47 points

needed a 90A 4x75

 WASHINGTON CLAUDIO 12 points

Pessoal eu montei uma asa zagui de 1 metro com este motor e o red brick de 50a da mais de 200 kmh muito bacana

 vladislaw 47 points

shaft on it = 4.0 mm, and the pinion = 3.175 mm

 Zaza dan 59 points

hi mate! will this motor work on trex 450 pro? i wanna use with YEP 80A esc (11.1v 2200mah 3S lipo), it is not too much? please let me know what do you think about? CHEERS!

 solentlife 117 points

Be prepared for SERIOUS ESC ... I fitted a 5x5 and needed a 90A ESC ... on 4S ... 70A on 3S

 WASHINGTON CLAUDIO 12 points

eu instalei uma 4x75 é* melhor e esc red brick 50A em 3s

 Zaza dan 59 points

hi mate! will this motor work on trex 450 pro? i wanna use with YEP 80A esc (11.1v 2200mah 3S lipo), it is not too much? please let me know what do you think about? CHEERS!

 WASHINGTON CLAUDIO 12 points

esc red brick 50 pinhã*o 13 dentes servos turnigy 90s metal no cí*clico e o digital na calda

 H-KING_SCOTT 5219 points

Recommended ESC is 50amp,think you will need to upgrade your ESC if you wish to use this motor to its full potential.

 BUDDY Z28 48 points

No, it will burn your esc for sure. I'm using the Turing plush, works great. It's more money but if you want power you have to pay. Unfortunately that's the way It is. But we'll worth it !

 WASHINGTON CLAUDIO 12 points

se continuar com esc de 25-30 vai fritar o motor e o esc melhor atualizar para um red brick 50a

 Zaza dan 59 points

hi mate! will this motor work on trex 450 pro? i wanna use with YEP 80A esc (11.1v 2200mah 3S lipo), it is not too much? please let me know what do you think about? CHEERS!

 poitka 99 points

doesnt matter with this motor. if you have the wrong direction, switch any 2 wires and ull be ok

 Iron@Man 7 points

thanks poitka

 old4570 11 points

As mentioned , just revers 2 wires , and that should be any 2 wires , its not overly important which two. I usually test direction without rotor blades , like when Im about to set up the gyro on the floor . This way I sort out most things before even attempting to hover ..

 WASHINGTON CLAUDIO 12 points

o do meio é* sinal o da direita e o da esquerda - se funcionar na direç*ã*o contraria é* só* mudar os fios das pontas

 EDWARD 71 points

Just tested APC 4.5 x 4.5 at 3s battery. at half throttle wattmeter showed ~35A, too much thrust to test on full throttle, motor slightly got warm. If you get good airflow to the motor, APC 4~5 inch prop would be the maximal.

 Julio Cesar 1 points

and with propeller pusher? or only standard? thanks

 EDWARD 71 points

Sorry forgot to tell it is the pusher configuration. Otherwise I would have been blown away by the propwash! Thanks for giving me the credit and hope it helps! I might use it either in EDF64 or pusher for a heavier plane.

 Julio Cesar 1 points

Hi I want to make a quadrucopter, and i want to buy this motor but you told me that motor slightly warm with the proppelker4.5x4.5 so, i need 4"propellers 2 standard and 2 pusher what propeller buy? Yhanks

 EDWARD 71 points

This motor has high kv, so either small prop, or EDF, or gear reduction. Not sure how you are going to use this motor for quadrucopter. Search online like RCGroups**** for more discussion about quadrucopter setup and sure you will find tons of info.

 solentlife 117 points

Plan to use a 4.75 x 4.75 .... 5 x 5 on a Parkjet to get ultimate speed ... amps should play around the 55A mark ....
The ideal would be about 4.1 x 4.1 to stay in lower amps figures ... but then that will only give good speed - not the banshee rush I'm looking for !

 rafael 11 points

motor muito forte....high speed e torque elevadissimo...adorei testei em hk 450 e 500gt...no 500 a economia de bateria foi de quase 18 minutos. duas baterias 2200map 3s com cabo y = 6s 4400map

 EDWARD 71 points

wish I could read your comment in English.

 mad jay 188 points

You'll get away with it with a 5 blade fan and a decent 55a ESC. I tried it myself,but it does generate a bit of heat. I'm now going to use it on 3s on a custom built 7 blade alloy EDF. Very strong motor, has 4mm bearings,3.17mm shaft and more torque than you can shake a stick at!

 mad jay 188 points

Dunno, but you have read the kv rating? What prop and battery are you gonna use? I can't help thinking that might be a step too far. You would need a 2s max. with something like a 5x2 prop. And then you will kill batteries! After having said all that, a steel L bracket with the correct holes would work. Easy to make, cut steel to size and shape,make holes and bend. Oh and by the way, at least a 60a ESC,this will pull lots of amps! Good luck....

 juanquy 18 points

Batt : 2200mah 3S 20C Prop : TGS 4.75X4.75 sports steel L bracket mmmm let me see the weight . Thanks

 mad jay 188 points

Could i be so bold as to suggest trying the SK3 2836 2500kv Turnigy motor. I have one on a Falcon flying wing 1350mm wingspan,with a 7x4 poly comp prop. BEST PUSHPROP SETUP I OWN SO FAR!!!!!!! On a parkjet this will be out of this world, litteraly! Added bonus is you will have about a 10-12 minute flight from your 2200mah batt. Happy building. All the best, Jay.

 juanquy 18 points

LOL exactly out of this world lol well my jet it will be a little bigger than yours but yeah you are right, I'm looking for power and speed means around 80mph I hope. lol

 mad jay 188 points

Oh O.K. i had assumed you meant a park jet like the small one sold here on HK. Have fun.

 solentlife 117 points

I have for Hobby King parkjet ... yes the small one. Metal mount, 5x5 prop as advised for PKJ, 3S 1500 .. 1800mAh 25C Zippy Compact LiPo ..... speeds are blistering .... over 200kph. Will take a 4S but then you need to be serious on ESC ... on 3S you need a 60A ... on 4S I suggest an 80A ESC. Yes I'm crazy ... see us on wattflyer ... pusher jets Need For Speed thread ...

 solentlife 117 points

in the end burnt out ESC's ... need 90A for 4S ... 70A for 3S on 5x5 props. Insane !!

 mad jay 188 points

there is a Turnigy typhoon heli motor 3550kv and also a 3450kv version.The 3450 has a little more torque.With these you should get a little more time in the air.The above motor is more a performance model. In both cases a Turnigy plush 40a ESC is nice and small and won't get hot.Sorry this sounds like an advert for Turnigy, but they're very well priced!

 Odair 1 points

I suggest that you use this Hobbyking Heli Series SS 50-65A ESC
I'm using is very good
I used one until the 30th and was not very good with this engine

 poitka 99 points

40 amp or higher. Im using trust 55 with this motor and very happy

 WASHINGTON CLAUDIO 12 points

um 3200 fica mais manso para iniciantes e um esc de 40a

 Zaza dan 59 points

hi mate! will this motor work on trex 450 pro? i wanna use with YEP 80A esc (11.1v 2200mah 3S lipo), it is not too much? please let me know what do you think about? CHEERS!

 mad jay 188 points

The 7 blade 64 fan has a big enough motor housing to accept this motor,but only a 3mm shaft adapter. However there is an adapter for 3.17mm shaft under no.108 7b in EDF section.

 mad jay 188 points

this motor has 6 poles/magnets. More RPM=lower gearing needed hence more torque. I consider this better,but that's not gospel!

 poitka 99 points

I have 2900 in a trex450 4s 40c setup, and 4400 in a trex450 3s 40c setup. Both run 14t pinions and they fly with no problems, but very similer in power. 40 esc is good. Id say your pinion depends how you fly, the 2900 is gona be very slow headspeed with 3s 10-11t pinion

 Overfill 144 points

2900headspeed it not so slow for a 450 pro. Align say to their manual that 2980 pitch -11, 12t is recommended.