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This tiny BAE Hawk is amazing, EPO foam combined with its featherweight stats means it will be very forgiving of the odd less than 100% landing. The 35mm Fan Unit & ESC are pre-installed as are the aileron and elevator servos, the model comes in 2 pieces so all you have to do when it arrives is attach the vertical stabilizer, hook up the RC equipment to a Reciever that uses Micro Molex 3 Pin conectors, such as the HobbyKing OrangeRX 4 Channel Micro reciever and you are ready to go...... where were we? Ah yes, performing those famous Red Arrows aerobatics in the local park, basketball court, in fact pretty well anywhere, these models are an absolute hoot when flown with friends, in fact get enough of you together and see if you can pull off some of those breathtaking close formation routine's the Red Arrows are famous for!
The box the model arrives in is really handy for not only transporting the model to prevent hanger rash but the spare pockets in the packing foam are ideal for carrying spare Lipolys and you will have so much fun with this, I would carry a few! This Hawk is so cute, even your Wife will like it!
Specs: Wing Span: 363mm Length: 431mm Flying Weight: 95g Wing Area: 2.35dm2 Wing Loading: 40.4g/dm2 EDF: 35mm with 9000kv Brushless Outrunner Motor ESC: 6A w/BEC Servo: 3 x 2g Includes: Optional Missiles 3 Blade Fan Rotor Instruction Book Requires: Your Own 4 Channel TX/RX (compatible RX with 1.25mm Molex 3 Pin Connectors) 7.4v 450mAh 2s Lipoly Battery
PRODUCT ID: T45-35-PNP
2 1:IC/2:Elec
3 Channel
363mm (14.29in)
431mm (16.97in)
95g (0.209lb)
720g
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$63.70
battery
Turnigy 500mAh 2S 20C Lipo Pack
Combo Price: $3.75IN STOCK
Turnigy nano-tech 460mah 2S 25~40C Lipo Pack
Combo Price: $3.95IN STOCK
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Turnigy 2S 3S Balance Charger. Direct 110/240v Input
ciao a tutti volevo sapere che tx rx comprare per non avere problemi so che va bene un 4ch..e sul sito si parla di rx orange 415...che radio devo abbinare?sapreste indicarmene una qui sul sito ,oppure un kit tx rx insieme che vada bene su questo aereo...grazie.
I don't have this plane but it calls for a 450mah 2s so I'm guessing that the turnigy nano-tech 460mah would work considering it is more compact than normal ones it should fit. If not you can carve a little foam away but just don't compromise the rigity of the airframe. Good luck and happy flying.
They should be the same gear as the other 35mm edfs. Search in the parts sections of the 35mm jets. But flying without the gear is so much better than with gear. The extra drag isn't worth it since take and landing is only 20 sec of the overall flight. It'll fly faster and look better with out gear and it would cost any extra money!
i sujest it to hobby king, wy they don t list spare part for plane they sell on the main page of the plane for sale? this can help a lot of people like me!!!!
Is there a y-lead for the 2x aileron servos? Because the recommended Rx has only 1ch for aileron right? so how to install?
Does somebody know whitch models are faster, the 35mm versions on 3s or the 50mm edf planes?
Yes, Y lead with micro plug on the end. The 50mm jets are ultimately faster, as you can run them on 4s. Then it is faster than HK and FWing 64mm jets. My MIG-15 rockets on 4s, with no other mods, except to upgrade lipo plugs to XT60 or 'T's. You will also have to deepen the lipo bay for the larger size of the 1000mA 4s nano. Avoid using 4s straight away, without running in the fan first,to allow it to make clearence to the shroud. ie. run it up slowly or fly it on quality 3s 1300mA- nano for example., The 35mm T45 i have would fly out of visual range too quickly, at similar speeds to the 50mm on 4s. 2s in the 35mm has been quick enough for its size. It launches well on 1/2 throttle. use 1/8 thro to land.
I am, it's the same as a propeller, less blades mean more speed.
Basically it works that each blade creates drag, which slows the air flow.
Google it if you don't believe me! :)
I'd like to build it up from the spare parts available here but can't find a suitable motor on Hobby King. Any idea where there is an inexpensive equivalent motor ?
You can, but you will need to change all the servo and esc plugs, not a big things (going to have to do on mine) ... but I would suggest a 4g or lighter RX (I'm going for the FrSky 4ch 2.5g or the Corona Synthesizer 4g RX, still have to decide which one)
The two different impellers is for give a customer choice. Yes 5 blades is better suit for 2S and 3 blades is more easy on 3S. But with a stronger ESC it is possible to go 3S with the 5 blades.
Interesting e_lm_70, thanks for your opinion. Yes, I need to go with 3S, though I saw in some videos the others 35mm F-86 Sabre with 2S Lipo seem have adequate speed. But still curious about the motor's life with 3S ^_^
Normally motor has less stress then ESC, since it is in the middle of the airflow with EDF, and as well, fly time is limited in time with 3S. I know some people have challenges to hand launch the old 35mm EDF with 2S, maybe the new one have higher Kv motors, soon we will know, since almost nobody got hands over the new 35mm series ...
There is the small corona 35Mhz 4ch synthesizer RX (PRODUCT ID: RP4S1-35), it weight around 4g, it is very small. And it has a decent range. I use in many small aeroplane with success (I'm still flying 40MHz with my Futaba Fx-18)
People did report to use 3S on stock Mig and Sabre 35mm without problem. Normally people use from 325mAh 65C to 460mAh. With a 10A ESC is always no problem going 3S
Finally ... one of the BEST looking EDF models in the SkyAngel fleet - they even did the aileron servo mods and no LG (?). Made the wing removable (for storage). Has anybody tried moding this for a usable rudder?
majik01, look at the dates in this discussion forum.
It was listed less than a day ago, so nobody has it yet.
IMO a rudder is pointless at this scale. Oh, and the wing is not removable.
MegaT - thanks and understood this model is new here in HK but you state you already have five SA 35 mm models. My only 50mm BAE wing is removable as I have a small abode. Your opinion is that a rudder is pointless - just curious, have you tried? I need help as I notice adverse yaw when flying the 50mm's specially in the wind and mixing the ailerons to the rudder would certainly help.
I haven't tried as I don't think the 35mm jets have enough speed for unlimited knife edge.
I'm sure there is enough space for a rudder servo in the 50mm jets. If it will help then go ahead and mod!
With a good knife and good skills you can make the wing removable if you like it. But for a micro bird is quite useless, especially since in the process you may increase the weight of the Hawk. Rudder servo is also a matter of hobby skills to be added. It may work decently if you mix the rudder control with aileron, else the rudder since is on a "tall" position will mainly roll the bird instead of "shifting" on the horizontal direction. All in all, if you are not a super expert better to keep it
e_lm_70 Thanks for the reply. A rudder on a model this size could theoretically result to axial spin like an arrow/rocket instead of yaw. QED. Not good.
Every photo of the Skyangels range I have seen have pilots in them. Not one of the models us guys have down here in Oz have a single pilot. Will this be the same. Pilots in the photo's - empty on delivery?
I can't fathom why the intakes are large enough to allow the use of a 50mm EDF in the model. I honestly thought Jalin would have absorbed some of the comments and recommendations on RCG about down-sizing the groper mouth intakes on these kits as it's absolute overkill but alas not... http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/images/em_r olleyes.gif
Each intake only needs a radius of ~16mm to deliver 100% FSA so I just don't get it.
I should still be able to get speeds well above 70mph on this once modded.
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What you see is what you get! So make ready for some pilots!!
The J-Power warbirds that have pilots in the HobbyKing photos have them in the actual planes too *)
Surely on a model this size it would be possible to cut the ducts back and replace them with correctly sized versions using 3mm depron for more realism/efficiency?
and i'm expecting the 'show model' is the one that comes with pilots and the actual product is shipped without.
On HK, the rule is what you see is what you get (it may get broken for old product that get an update from producer, but HK will not update the photos) So, this bird will come with two pilots.
Nothing wrong with the quality! I've got 5 of the other 35mm JETS. These jets are absolutely awesome.
If you don't buy them there will be more for us :)
lol... if its as good as my f86 sabre them im having one, that thing is awesome.. and like the other guys say, fly it on a 3s. I use the rhino 3s 360mah and it goes like stink...
i cannot get the CG right with Rhino 3S 360 .. any ideas ?? do i need to add weight at the tail ??
it's 121 grams now and i prefer not to add any more weight ..
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What a top little model! First thing you notice is how small it is! Looks like a display model rather than a flying one. Detail finish is not great around the canopy, but the overall look is good.
It needs a good hard chuck to get it flying - a limp throw will see it just sag into the grass. Once flying the speed is amazing - don't take your eyes off it. I am using 3S 360mAh and would recommend this setup. 2S would be not so good. It does slow down a bit but controls get very sluggish. Keep speed up on landing till close to the ground, then just keep wings level and let it settle. It is so small it seems to just bounce and flip no matter how careful you are, but no harm done! Ailerons very sensitive at speed, lots of expo required. Factory CG (25mm) is fine. I am using HK Orange Rx R415 which fits nicely, plugs straight in and has plenty of range for this little model.
What a blast! This will be in the car on every flying trip for a while I am sure! Keep it in the glovebox!
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Brilliant little plane, very easy to fly and will surprisingly handle 10 - 15 kt winds with 2 cell battery. Do not purchase the recommended 500mah battery as it will not fit - too big. I use the zippy 350mah 2 cell which I also use for my 35mm F -86. Averaging 4 min flight times. Great fun and packaged very well, Arrived in showroom condition. Only thing I had to do was to calibrate the ESC, as the ESC kept "beeping" after being bound. Easy to do after binding by disconnecting battery, put throttle to 100pcnt and reconnect the battery. You should hear a series of beeps then nothing. Reduce the throttle to zero. Everything should now work. Anxiously waiting for the twin 35mm Mig 29.
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You can't transport the plane in the box it comes in after you mount the vertical stabilizer....it will get crushed....they should take that out of the description.
I got the plane today and set it up tonite. The vertical stabilizer is warped...I'll try to straighten it after it's glued on the plane....not too bad tho. The horizontal stabilizers(elevator) were glued on at completely different angles. I had to almost crack one off completely and reglue it. Canopy fits like doggie poo...might have to find a thin red rubber band to slide on just to keep from loosing it.
The esc seems to be ok with my rhino 360mah 3s batts from the bench testing. Also, those batts fit perfectly in there and cg is good. Will do the maiden in a few days...I think it's gonna be fun!
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un ptit post en français, y en n'a pas souvant...
c'est mon premier jet, et je dois dire que je suis très agréablement surpris par ses qualités de vol, je ne pensais pas qu'il serait aussi bon!
quelques petits défauts à corriger avant le premier vol :
-il y a du jeu dans les guignols de commande d'ailerons et de profondeur, il faut ajouter des rondelles sur les dominos des quignols pour réduire le jeu
-ajouter un petit taiton sous l'aile, dans le trou par où sortent les câbles des servos, afin de pouvoir lancer la bête plus facilement
avec des packs nanotech 3s 370mAh 30C, il vole très bien environ 4 minutes, par contre beaucoup de couple au démarrage, je pense qu'en mettant la turbine tripale fournie ca éviterait qu'il se retrouve à l'envers dès le lancer... il faut aussi retailler la verrière pour que la verrière se referme bien une fois l'accu en place. attention à ce que le palonnier du servo de profondeur ne bute pas sur le pack.
j'ai testé aussi en 2s2p avec des packs de 2s 180 mAh, ca manque un peu de pêche mais ca vole quand même pas trop mal, en revanche le placement des accus est idéal, un dans le nez et l'autre plus en arrière (comme les pilotes dans la verrière :D), nul besoin de retailler la verrière.
4 étoiles seulement car il y a quel
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Received mine on Dec 2, linkage was already connected. I'm using the Orange R415 RX. The ad says 95 grams AUW, but mine weighs in at 106. I have the F-86 and it weighs in at 104 and files great, so, 105 shouldn't be an issue. I measured 60 grams of thrust at 1" from the nozzle using the 5 blade fan and 2s .350.
Side note, the specs say 2s 500, the F-86 says 2S .350. I purchased three of the Turnigy 2S 500 batteries pictured in this add and they are too large to fit in the plane. Get the 2s 350's, if you want a 3s, the Rhino 3s 360 fits great.
I haven't flown it yes, and I will post thrust from the supplied 3 blade fan at some point on both the 2S and 3S. One other interesting thing.. this plane is supposed to have landing gear, there are molds in the foam that exactly match the landing gear molds in the micro A-10.. I wish HK would offer them in the kit or as spares, I'd like to try them out. As I said, I have the F-86 and it's a blast to fly, I know this one will be also! I am slowly trying to collect all the 35MM EDF's. Oh, and forget about using the box to transport it, once you attach the vertical stab, it wont fit..
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