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  Quote Pepped Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/Nov/2011 at 7:18am
Maxdamage , Chrissy47
What's the latest on your trucks ?
Are they back on track or are you still waiting for parts ?
Please tell me if you have found parts that fit but is of a different brand.
I'm thinking of buying this truck but I hesitate a little when I read about the diff gears.
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  Quote Chrissy47 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/Nov/2011 at 9:12am
Funny you should ask. :)

Last night I finally got around to getting it all back together with FG diff gears and cups. They are very expensive but bullet proof.

With the standard gears they are probably ok providing you do a few things. My diffs exploded because the truck clipped a post at speed which flexed the control arms (they are plastic) enough that the cups pulled out. The FG design relies on the driveshafts holding te cups in the wheel gears of the diff. If they pop out, the gear drops and it's all over. I got around this by making sure the length of all the control arms (they are fully adjustable) is kept short so the cups can't pull out (mine were way too long, my fault). I also placed tape around the drive shafts to create a raised edge that the booots cant push past. This means the boots are always applying pressure on the diff cups. So far I have had no more problems.

If you go to the FG diff gears you have to go to FG diff cups. the spline cut OD is bigger. The Rovan cups will not engage the FG wheel diff gears properly. At first they feel they do, but it's only just and they will eventually (about 2 seconds) slip.

This truck is definately not a " RTR out of the box" truck. It needs to be stripped down and re-assembled with some thought. if done properly it is a huuuuuuuge amount of fun.

I will try to post up some more pics when I can get a chance.

By the way as an interim fit I ran mine as a RWD only so the cost of the diff bits wasn't such a sting (I got 1 set at a time).

Cups are around 25 bucks each.
Diff gears are around 50 bucks a pair (need 2 pairs per diff)
You also need the shim washers as the rovan ones are a bit thick for the FG gears and the diff will be very tight.

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  Quote Pepped Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/Nov/2011 at 4:34am
Mark,
Thanks for the long reply man !
Regarding the diff gears, it's all clear now.
All I have to do now is get a green light from my wife which is the hardest part
//Peter
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  Quote Chrissy47 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/Nov/2011 at 1:16pm
No worries Peter. I would love for HK to add both sets of diff gears to the spares listing now that mine is setup properly. I would really like to put stock one's into just the rear diff and run it around to see if they held up ok now.

I gave it another short flogging in the back yard last night. Tore a curcular groove in my back lawn. LOL. Held it flat doing doughies and it didn't miss a beat. Now I've just got to play with the carby tuning. It's a bit boggy in midrange.

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  Quote Chrissy47 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/Nov/2011 at 5:00pm
Well took it out for another thrash today down the oval. Now it's all run in, it well and truly hammers. Had a tyre start to pull from one of the rims. A bit of CA and it's all good again.

I see there are a few more parts starting to come in. The upper control arm threaded adjuster is another thing to keep a couple of spares of. Hit something hard and it will bend. Good news is the plastic arms hold up really well.

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  Quote Pepped Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/Dec/2011 at 6:25am
Whooaa !
I just placed an order on this truck.
The boring part is that I wont get it here to Sweden before 7 Jan.
Mark, is these the diffgears I should stock ?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16860__Metal_Bevel_Gear_16T_1_5_4WD_Big_Monster_.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16861__Metal_Bevel_Gear_16T_1_5_4WD_Big_Monster.html

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  Quote Chrissy47 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/Dec/2011 at 9:23pm
Hey Peter, been interstate for work, sorry I missed your post. Yep, the diff Bevel gears are the ones. I would definately consider getting a set of the genuine FG diff gears and diff cups eventually. They are expensive but they seem to be unbreakable. The 14 tooth and 16 tooth gears are also the next weak link. I actually replaced mine with smartech ones. If I get a chance I'll post up details on how to do this. It involves flipping the gear carrier around to get the 44 and 16 tooth gears to line up nicely.

Mark

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  Quote Pepped Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13/Dec/2011 at 7:16am
Mark,
A picture is worth a thousand words ;)
I'll probably go the FG path eventually once they break.
It's sad to know that the diff will break..
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  Quote Ultimate48 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/Feb/2012 at 6:39am
Hi Mark
Do you have the part numbers for the FG parts you used ?

Gears and washers / diff cups

My truck diff gears are done as well.
I did not even run this truck yet.
I did the same as you fully disassembled
the truck and found the front diff was lock up
took the diff apart and the gears were all broken.

Thanks
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  Quote Pepped Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/Feb/2012 at 10:45pm
Holy sh*t !
That really stinks, HK should stock some reinforced diffgears for this truck.
Haven't started my truck yet but the diffs seems to work so far, when I turn them by hand.
I had a totaly different problem. Two of the balls on my left-front driveshaft was not seated correctly. this made it impossible to turn the wheel when the driveshaft was slightly angled down.
I had to take out the Dremel and grind them down so I could turn the driveshaft while I was simulating wheel going up/down.
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