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  Quote ask21 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: New Quad copter where to start ?
    Posted: 05/Jun/2012 at 7:28am
Erikcramer: OK, thank you.
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  Quote Erikcramer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/Jun/2012 at 3:01am
Ok let me see list of parts.


props + some extra incase you sax them up..
Prop
motors.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8617__Turnigy_2730_Brushless_Motor_1300kv.html
im not totaly happy with the mounting system.
They didnt really fit and i needed to do modifications which sucked.
So you could probably look for the same one with nicer mounting system?
You might need some thing like this but im not certain about the size as there are 3 :
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__23789__NTM_42_Carbon_Fibre_Motor_Mount.html


This is the esc, but if you change the motors you might need to change these also:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2161__TURNIGY_Plush_12amp_2A_BEC_BESC.html

Power distribution board to keep things neat. (plug fits on the battery also ;-) )
Power dis board


Wires from and to the receiver:
Wires.

A battery to power everything:
Battery
Its 3 cell You can probably geth higher 2200mAh   so it will last longer if i say it correctly.

From the Esc to the power dist unit you need plugs:

These should fit:
Plugs

Some shrink wrap to keep things clean and safe:

Schrink


Frame + How to is over here:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29502&PID=185507#185507

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22397__Turnigy_Talon_Carbon_Fiber_Quadcopter_Frame.html

You need these to mount the board nicely:
Spacer
(dont have them my self but think they would fit)

Grubs:

I got some extra because i noticed they fell out of the motors once or twice:
Grub

You could get some thread locker to glue them
Thread locker

to apply it you should get :
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=8466&buddycode=1ACE6881-5174-4140-80F7-1DDF41A7FF98

Control board:
Board

If you want to use the prop saver instead of a proper mount i would recommend getting some extra rubbers as you might loose them:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8234
And a radio + receiver but that i dont know.


New talon might be nicer has better mounting system also hope it fits the motors:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22781__Turnigy_Talon_Quadcopter_V2_0_Carbon_Fiber_Frame_550mm.html

I hope the list is complete, im sorry that some things are not totaly clear but im no expert.

I forgot you should get soem screws to mount the motors to the frame.
and a esc programmer is easy also i got this one:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2169__TURNIGY_BESC_Programming_Card.html

The screws where i think 2.5M but the diameter of the screw is actualy 2mm So i would recommend some lock nuts http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=21187&buddycode=22CE63F8-6FB1-4F9C-95AE-271ECA18751C
And a o ring to keep things inplace:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__6968__Washers_3_bag_of_100pc_.html
I think this one not sure there are no dimensions.

And a Battery monitor for during flight
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7223__Hobby_King_Battery_Monitor_3S.html

Edited by Erikcramer - 05/Jun/2012 at 3:37am
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  Quote ask21 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/Jun/2012 at 5:05pm
Originally posted by clark06000

This extension may be used when there are more than one ESC (multimotor airplane, tri or quad or hexa copters). Basically, each ESC has a connector with 3 wires( 0 volt, + 5 volts and signal) to be plugged on the receiver throttle channel (or motor output).
Connecting together the different 5 volts can cause a power conflict and 5 volt failures in flight, because maybe having not 5v matching values. So, as a rule, only one 5 volt is connected to the receiver or control board...
For this reason, this part has no 5 volts center wire. It is connected to the ESC 3 pin output and the other side to the receiver channel (or copter motor output). Only one ESC is directly connected to the receiver, without this extension, thus supplying only ONE 5 volts to the electronics...
Another way to proceed is simply to forget about these cumbersome extensions. Just remove the 5 volt wire on each ESC connector (extract the center pin and insulate it), except ONE.
Hope this helps...


OK. thanks.
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  Quote clark06000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/Jun/2012 at 4:09pm
This extension may be used when there are more than one ESC (multimotor airplane, tri or quad or hexa copters). Basically, each ESC has a connector with 3 wires( 0 volt, + 5 volts and signal) to be plugged on the receiver throttle channel (or motor output).
Connecting together the different 5 volts can cause a power conflict and 5 volt failures in flight, because maybe having not 5v matching values. So, as a rule, only one 5 volt is connected to the receiver or control board...
For this reason, this part has no 5 volts center wire. It is connected to the ESC 3 pin output and the other side to the receiver channel (or copter motor output). Only one ESC is directly connected to the receiver, without this extension, thus supplying only ONE 5 volts to the electronics...
Another way to proceed is simply to forget about these cumbersome extensions. Just remove the 5 volt wire on each ESC connector (extract the center pin and insulate it), except ONE.
Hope this helps...
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  Quote ask21 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/Jun/2012 at 12:44am

Erikcramer:
Please: why is necessary this item for?:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21496

Thank you[/QUOTE]

Its not, i got it because i was told i would need it but you dont need it at all. i can regenerate a list of part i really needed if you want. [/QUOTE]

Yes, OK? Can you put the LIST, please? Thank you
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  Quote Erikcramer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/Jun/2012 at 1:38am
Originally posted by Sooty

Erik - why don't you research the Quadcopter section of this forum which, surprisingly, is dedicated to quadcopter setup problems like yours?

The questions you are asking have been asked and dealt with there many times.

If you get a copy of the KK Quadcopter manual (not the HK Manual which is only fit to hang on the back of the dunny door)and follow it step by step from beginning to end you will have a machine that will actually fly.

Im thinking about making some how to when i have time for all the newbies like because its quiet hard to find exact information about every thing.
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  Quote Erikcramer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/Jun/2012 at 12:47am
Originally posted by ask21

Originally posted by Erikcramer

Hi,

Im Erik and im kind of new to the whole models and remote controlling.

I've build a quad copter with the list supplied bij help with the hobbyking personal see :


    Talon Quadcopter
    Board
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=19534
    3 x BEC Eliminator
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21496
    Male to Male
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__21758__10CM_Male_to_Male_Servo_Lead_JR_26AWG_10pcs_set_.html
    Battery
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7635
    12awg wire
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9673
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9674
    4mm bullet with covers
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9283
    2 x 3.5mm
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=68
    Shrink Wrap
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=3833
    4x ESC
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2161__TURNIGY_Plush_12amp_2A_BEC_BESC.html
    4 x Motor
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8617__Turnigy_2730_Brushless_Motor_1300kv.html
    2 x Prop
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11331


Because the radio they sugested was sold out i have borrowed the radio + receiver from my cousin.

I've set up all the parts together.
Ive flashed the bord with a KK firmware, wired all the escs to the motors drilled out the motors because they didnt fit.(the metal holes.)

i've looked up the ports of the receiver with my cousin and we connected the apropiate wires to the bords apropiate ports.

We had one moter running yesterday because sudenly it worked and then nothing worked any more.

When i power up the bord the red light blinks once then it turns off (i think it has to stay on not certain.)
And the esc beeps 1234 Beep beep beep   Beep.   this is when the radio is on and off.

I think there is a connection between the radio and the receiver because when i turn on the radio the light on the receiver blinks once and goes on.

I understand i have to take some steps still before i can put the propellers on but im kind of lost on where to go now and what to do.
Is there some one who can help me out into the general direction where to go.

If some one is having trouble with the frame i've posted a how to over here: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22397__Turnigy_Talon_Carbon_Fiber_Quadcopter_Frame.html

or direct link


How to frame


Erihcramer:
Please: why is necessary this item for?:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21496

Thank you


Its not, i got it because i was told i would need it but you dont need it at all. i can regenerate a list of part i really needed if you want.
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  Quote Sooty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jun/2012 at 6:51am
Erik - why don't you research the Quadcopter section of this forum which, surprisingly, is dedicated to quadcopter setup problems like yours?

The questions you are asking have been asked and dealt with there many times.

If you get a copy of the KK Quadcopter manual (not the HK Manual which is only fit to hang on the back of the dunny door)and follow it step by step from beginning to end you will have a machine that will actually fly.
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  Quote ask21 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/Jun/2012 at 1:14am
Originally posted by Erikcramer

Hi,

Im Erik and im kind of new to the whole models and remote controlling.

I've build a quad copter with the list supplied bij help with the hobbyking personal see :


    Talon Quadcopter
    Board
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=19534
    3 x BEC Eliminator
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21496
    Male to Male
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__21758__10CM_Male_to_Male_Servo_Lead_JR_26AWG_10pcs_set_.html
    Battery
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7635
    12awg wire
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9673
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9674
    4mm bullet with covers
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9283
    2 x 3.5mm
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=68
    Shrink Wrap
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=3833
    4x ESC
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2161__TURNIGY_Plush_12amp_2A_BEC_BESC.html
    4 x Motor
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8617__Turnigy_2730_Brushless_Motor_1300kv.html
    2 x Prop
    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11331


Because the radio they sugested was sold out i have borrowed the radio + receiver from my cousin.

I've set up all the parts together.
Ive flashed the bord with a KK firmware, wired all the escs to the motors drilled out the motors because they didnt fit.(the metal holes.)

i've looked up the ports of the receiver with my cousin and we connected the apropiate wires to the bords apropiate ports.

We had one moter running yesterday because sudenly it worked and then nothing worked any more.

When i power up the bord the red light blinks once then it turns off (i think it has to stay on not certain.)
And the esc beeps 1234 Beep beep beep   Beep.   this is when the radio is on and off.

I think there is a connection between the radio and the receiver because when i turn on the radio the light on the receiver blinks once and goes on.

I understand i have to take some steps still before i can put the propellers on but im kind of lost on where to go now and what to do.
Is there some one who can help me out into the general direction where to go.

If some one is having trouble with the frame i've posted a how to over here: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22397__Turnigy_Talon_Carbon_Fiber_Quadcopter_Frame.html

or direct link


How to frame


Erihcramer:
Please: why is necessary this item for?:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21496

Thank you
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  Quote Erikcramer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/May/2012 at 5:49am
Im in diemen near amsterdam.

I tryed arming the board with the throttle but i think i had the mixing switches on and had to lower the trim.

I read the manual of the controller here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/60029560/Esky-ET6I-Transmitter-Manual
and switched every thing to default.

I have gotten 3 mothers to spin up 1 is not working, it wants to spin but its shiffering. so ill check wires tomorrow i think. (was broken wire :D)

the others don't spin up all at the same time to i think that because of the esc not being configured or am i wrong ? some takea long time i have to put the throtle all the way up.

Arming the board i have to put it to the left in deed, but disarming is to the right.

Originally posted by SubcultureD

OK:
The esc's should be checked and calibrated using the manual on the HK site. You can find it when you open the esc page and click on the files tab. There are easier ways to set it up then the "follow the beeps" way. I bought a programmer card after a few helicopters (and quads and tricopters use 3 or 4 esc's).

The yaw/throttle can be checked by trying to arm the board. Pull the throttle down and push the yaw left. You should see a red led light up. Pull the throttle down and yaw left, the led goes off.

If left of right yaw is reversed, just change it in the transmitter. If the led doesn't come on, try it in the up position and change accordingly.

Good luck,

Danny

PS: where in NL are you?
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