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Ultra fast microprocessor controlled, extremely low resistance circuit and chip design, and aluminum heatsink for better thermal dissipation are just some of the features in the new TURNIGY Super Brain range of brushless speed controllers. The Super Brain brushlessesc is a high performance ESC capable of standard and competition use. Full protection, including signal loss, over-temperature. Programable by USB, PC or your Tx. Compatible with all radio systems.
Features: Supports the ‘Turnigy USB Linker’ to program the ESC by computer. Internet upgradeable ESC firmware. Integrated flight data logger, records data for the ENTIRE flight such as: - Voltage - Current - Temperature - Motor RPM - Throttle travel
I have this esc and it will go on a plane not a heli, I would like to ask what options do I have regarding governor mode? I see auto/low/high, which should I use? auto or low?
With the sk3 3530 1340kv motor I use 12khz pwm, high timing, on medium timing it draws more current than on high, and on low timing the current is about the same as high, but less rpm.
I need to install on my 450 Pro. The width under the 450 Pro battery holder is 26mm. So Can someone put a mic or cal to this ESC to confirm the Size: 27mm?
Hi I have one of these, use it in my 450 together with 3s and a typhoon 2218H. It worked fine for about 10 flights, after that I changed my tail servo to a HD3688. Flew it for about 4min, and suddenly the Heli just stopped in the air:( had tp replace some parts, but what happened? Could the esc get to warm and shutdown? I've checked my connectors and they are fine.
Any tips?
The best way to check for that is to look at the flight data logs, or to measure the ESC temp with an IR thermometer. After thermal shutdown, the ESC will not run the motor for quite a while. RF interference can cause it to shut down the motor too, but in that case it will run the motor again as soon as the RF interference is gone, after you lower throttle to minimum and then back up.
Can anyone tell me the 'refresh rate' on these - I've bought 4 for a Quadcopter - but am having trouble with the DJI Naza flight controller.
Some sites seem to indicate I need 400hz ESC's.
Is there an alternate firmware where I could sacrifice the data logging for a faster refresh.
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Anyone have them working on a Quad ? - especially the DJI Naza ?
Thanks in advance
There should be no problems using them in the quadrocopter. This is very fast Speed Controller (fact communication with receiver). Turnigy plush are so fast, that are sufficient to quadrocopter
go to the 40amp super brain page on this site, under the files tab there is a file called original firmware for TSB40A-download it and use the usb linker to update your super brain to this file. I ran into the same problem and this fixed it
You need to have the USB driver installed - after installing the Superbrain software, go into Device Manager and look for an entry for Silicon Labs CP210x USB to UART Bridge (COMX) in "Ports (Com & LPT) If you don't see it with the USB linker plugged in, you haven't installed the drivers.
somthing is wrong with mine it goes from around quarter throttle with the first click up and the works it way down but after it reaches half throttle it goes up to full
you may need to set your throttle end points.put your throttle to full throttle, turn on your transmitter, then plug in your esc. It will beep then put your throttle back down.see if that fixes it.
Hooked my ESC backwards with my lipo and fried the battery. Strange thing is the Turnigy Brain ESC seems fine and still works. Anyone know if doing this can permanently damage the ESC? Should I replace the caps on the ESC to be safe? The ESC was only hooked up to my receiver and not the motor.
It can damage your esc , but if its working fine then you should not have any problems. As for the caps I'm guessing your talking about your t-connector or bannana plug, If its not burn't up it should be fine.
When you plug in your esc The Power go's thru your capacitors first,There what supplies constant voltage to the esc. So intern if your esc is working than your cap's are fine.You have a good esc my first choice.
flyboy320 is the ESC now working fine?? Are the caps popped? I would just keep using he. If you can de solider the caps test them. Put a multi-meter on them (using OHMS) and see if the work then do it the other way around (ie: to -to- then to- -to ) I hope this helps.
I can view the MAX and Min values using the stand alone programming card. I can program the settings using the software and USB linker . I can not display any data using the PC software. When I upload the data a progress bar shows that it downloads but nothing is ever displayed.
Hi it displays the flight data in charts and curves, Ive been using one on a hk450gt the information it gives is very good and easy to understand, save so much time and guesswork when setting up the heli. Also useful for keeping an eye on your flighttimes and battery condition. I would reccomend this and buy again myself.
Unless you are talking about this Supports the ‘*Turnigy USB Linker’* to program the ESC by computer.
Internet upgradeable ESC firmware.
Integrated flight data logger, records data for the ENTIRE flight such as:
- Voltage
- Current
- Temperature
- Motor RPM
- Throttle travel
Problems with this ESC, like motor shut down or no soft start?
Try this firmware in the files section:
"Firmware for those who have problems with this ESC".
But please note that this is a firmware originatet for a 80A version (Kingkong series).
Its working well and all problems are gone since using this firm.
If you encounter heat over 75°*C of your ESC, install a small heatsink (2x2cm), by cutting the silicon cover (side with the print on it)away on glue it on the alumium. 20°*C decrease of heat....
Please post your experiences..
Do not flash if your ESC is working fine. The original firmware is to restore the ESC if you try to flash with invalid firmware or if it gets erased accidentally. I haven't found any newer firmware, but the ESC is working well for me as-shipped.
What are the correct settings for an heli with Turnigy 2215 3500kV engine:
current limiting: Standard or Insensitive?
Timing advance: Auto or Middle?
governor mode: Auto or low? Im using a trottle curve
Use insensitive or no current limiting for a helicopter. Helis can spike current for short periods and sensitive could cause a shut down in that case when it isn't necessary.
Timing advance should be auto or low, but you can experiment. Any timing setting will not cause problems for short periods of time, higher timing will usually produce more power at the cost of efficiency and motor heat.
Governor auto if you're using a curve, just make sure to calibrate the throttle range correctly. You
I've just recieved a 2218 as well and have done some testing. The motor seems to run a little hot in static testing, a higher PWM switching rate is supposed to help with that. Static tests at 8kHz and 12kHz seem to work fine. I'm going to try a flight at 16kHz. Experiment with short run times and watch the data. Higher PWM rate should lower motor temp but increase ESC temp. Max ESC temp should be around 80C.
After much searching, it seems there are no updates available. The product page has a download for the latest which is the same as the shipped version. Do you have a problem that may be firmware related?
I'm using a BEC very similar to the hobbyking product id: TR-UBEC. Seems to work well, a wiring diagram is usually included with any external BEC. Make sure the middle wire (red) going from the ESC to the throttle channel is disabled in some way. See youtube video.
and the best way is to use a servo extension lead or y lead with the red wire disconnected, leaving the ESC lead intact - since you need the red wire if you want to hook up the ESC to your pc to upload any logged data.
Thanks dude great info on vid so just to clear thinxgs up the benefits of running an external BEC is to 1. Have control of servos in the event of an ESC melt down 2. By having an external BEC in the system you reduce load on ESC and it can concentrate on running engine only ,this will in escence make it run cooler longer and increase lifespan. I have a Hextronic UBEC DC 6-23v this would be sufficient to install ? Thanks
I just got my 40amp today and plugged it in to program. when I tried to connect it in the software I get an error saying "cant hardware yyyy's parameter setting" What does that mean???
Did you install the software the right way? Did you connect it the right way? Maybe you should try to install the driver again, and I recommend to follow the manual (under the "File" section).
I have tried that and different computers as well. I have since ordered a second one and it works fine. I read a comment from you FIZZER above about the firmware files. Could I put them on? To me it is like it has nothing on the ESC. How would I do it if it doesn't connect??
Sounds like your first one is bad, I would try to get a refund. I can't think of a way to update the firmware if it won't connect in the first place :(
I use a the 40A in a 450. However you should use a separate BEC as the 40A superbrain has a low-amp linear BEC that will heat the ESC too much, especially if you are using digital servos and a powerful tail servo.
just tried this ESC and love the features.BUT mine has a serious safety fault. if after you power it up with throttle cut off and then during operation turn on throttle cut with a -10% setting, it resets the low trottle so that when you turn throttle cut off the motor starts up with the throttle stick fully down. can anyone confirm this on their unit. none of my other ESC's can be changed after the power on sequence.
I can confirm that it does exactly as you describe - but it doesn't make it a dangerous ESC! Using negative values in throttle hold is something that Nitro flyers used to do, and perhaps as a throwback to those days, a lot of heli radios will have -5 as the default. So long as you set throttle hold to 0, there are no problems. You could say that you are operating your TX in an unsafe manner if you set -10 in throttle hold, it's just asking for trouble. Incidentally, I think many other ESC's b
And the same happens to me. If I use the transmitter throttle cut switch the motor continues to spin even though the throttle stick to minimum. Also the same happens when you return from the fail safe option in which I set up minimum throttle in case of loss of connection with the transmitter. We want to correct this bug immediately in the next version of firmware. This is a SAFETY FAULT that is not happening in PLUSH series.
Can anyone check if the Soft Start also works when the Governor mode is in Auto Mode? I edited the governor to Auto but then the soft start doesent work anymore!
auto is really their term for governor off. when its off soft start is soft but no where near as soft as it is in governor mode. soft with no governor is more for use with airplane props.
I can confirm that the "super soft start" is only available in governor high and low mode, and not in "auto". The SB is also sensitive to low throttle values - I don't go below about 65, otherwise it can overheat and go into thermal shutdown, even when drawing only 11 or 12 amps!
Well i now adde a greater heatsink the controller now runs at max 60°C but in govenor mode i have the problem that it now stops the motor two times in flight ..... what the hell is wrong??? I use a flat curve 65%
Just started to get this motor cutting out problem myself on my 450 - think it might be caused by RF interference, since going to low stick and then pushing the stick back up will re-start the motor. nothing has changed in my setup, which was working previously, so maybe ESD-related.
If you have problems reading the datalogger with computer freeze or blue screen try to run the program in compatibility mode( i try it on win 7 64bit) for win XP SP3 and administrator right on
To me worked well
NEVER BUY A SB for helis! thats my opinion! my heli fell out of the sky twice with this ESC! sudde stop. my first thougths where: temperature-cutof. but a cooler didn't solve the problem. the log showed it clearly, the ESC was cool! other users have similar problems with SB! go for a plush, sentry or K-Force (if you like to govern)
I really like the SB in my 450 Pro. It's the best thing I ever bought from HK. I've had more than 55A draw with my Typhoon 2218H with no problems. The data logging on the SB is great - it's what I bought it for - and it has a pretty decent governor mode, much better than the one on my Turnigy Blue series ESC.
It has an auto shutdown feature (item #23 in the Hifei manual) which activates after the throttle signal is lost for more than 3 seconds - usually caused by RF interference. Many users se
Just got mine Where is this programming connection it speaks of? I can't see anything that would support a cable or connector anywhere on it. Is it inside the shrink tube case? How is this supposed to work anyway? Something does not seem right here.
Here is a helpful hint for anyone using the data logging USB software:- The program doesnt remember the Motor poles and Gear ratios entered - you have to enter them every time. Solution - Edit the config.ini file and you can set them like this:- gearrate=13 polnumber=8 Then they will be set correctly every time you start the program :-)
thanks for that Hugh! Changing the pole number is a pain since you have to add a digit first, otherwise as soon as you delete the "2", you get that warning box! Very annoying! I wish the gear ratio could be input to at least one if not two decimal places, though - it seems to calculate the rpm based on the integer value of any number you input.
Before I buy a Turnigy Superbrain 40A ESC, do I need the Programming CARD or the Programming BOX? I also think that the USB link isn't needed for programming, just for downloading info from the computer, correct?
I can confirm that this ESC can be programmed by the Programming Box (the one with LCD display and buttons) or by USB link (with USB link and the software downloaded from files area). It cannot be programmed by the Turnigy programming card (the one with just leds and buttons)
I bought the USB linker. It works as advertised. I installed the software downloaded from from HK, plug ESC into linker and then plug into USB. Make sure you have the right comm port selected for the USB, and click on "connect". There are drop down menus for programing the ESC on the right hand side.
The Throttle range dosn't work properly.
Even after several calibrations the read out shows that the throttle dose not go over 60%.
What is going on?
Is there a newer firmware out there than the one already uploaded?
How is the manufacture?
How can we look for updates?
reset the ESC to default, and check the throttle range value in the SuperBrain software - it's usually 640us I think. Then go thru the calibration procedure, and check it again - you should see a different value. Redo throttle calibration, and make sure that you are getting a consistent new value. Also check your throttle curves to make sure you go from 0% to 100% in the one you use for throttle calibration (usually the normal curve). Make sure that throttle hold is set to 0% and not any negative value. With Futaba radios, you usually have to reverse the throttle channel. I presume you're not using governor mode - with a small pinion and the throttle curve set to a lowish value - say 80% - the throttle might not need to go above 60% for hovering and general flying around.
when not in use for heli, it clearly has a lot faster response than the plush and sentry series. i guess thats also a requirement for the governer to work properly.
today i tried the supersoftstart with my HK450 and its works perfectly. very slow spinup from zero to whatever preselect. so you can just flip a switch and it will spin up nicely with no aprupt startup. governer was on low. i wish there were more settings for the governer.
i run it on 4s LiFePo4 and it works just fine. emptied 8 packs so far and no trouble with it, no heat or anything. but 4S Lipo might be too much.. i wouldnt dare to try. if you want 4-6S just buy the Superbrain 60 oder 80. they can do 6S. so far i used the progcard for programming. just make sure there's only on switch selected at a time. overall very good, new series. i looking forward to the data logging
Guys, bought one of these as i normally buy the Turnigy plush model. I do not have the programmable card or device. Can i program it directly by my Tx. How??? Is it the same like the plush models? Beep...beep beep thing???
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Hey Guemat are you saying the spec on this controller are not correct? because it says in the specs " BEC: 5V/4A (Switching BEC, supports above 4 digital servos)"
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