You would have to measure or know the diameter of the main shaft and then look for a swash leveler that is drilled for that size. Even with the right shaft size, the arms of the swash leveler may not be right if it is not designed for the mCPx. Probably better off to get one that is made for the mCPx...
I have this tool, use it to level my 450se swash plate. works perfect. now i have another heli, the HK450TTPRO, and the swash plate is much bigger so the tool won't match. is there another tool for the job?
There was one available here - Product code SWLTP-450 for the 450 Pro, but is on Backorder at the moment. However, it does need a little bit of work to make it do the job correctly. Have a read of the reviews/discussion to see.
Be sure to rotate the tool so that you check it is true - ie turn three times so each leg s over each swashplate ball in all combinations. I have had one, where at one position it shows level, but on rotating it 120deg it showed a 0.5mm gap!
I mean, I have 3-blade rotor head, flybarless, and the axel looks a bit shorter then the standard HK-450TTPro... so the distance between body and swashplate should be shorter I guess, more over the tool "legs" are stretched against swash plate (I guess they should be outside swashplate and adjoine to the swashplate side adge surface) I'm thinking to cut the legs a bit (to make the tools swashplate "catcher-nest" wider), and also thinking to cut the tool to be 1cm shorter - would that be a good decision? If I leave the tool length the way it is now, then when my servos are in neitar position, the blades angle is maximum agressive... so please can anibody give any illustration what should I see (what should be the spaces proportion between sw/p, blade holding plate, body plate...)
I just tried the standard 2-blate HK rotor from the set... the "symptoms" are same: when I install the tool between the body bearing and the swash plate, the swashplate position seems too high: there is no more room left for the sw/p to lift higher - which means the maximum agressive blades angle... I believe it shouldn't be this way, the tool is too long... can anybody advice if I'm doing something wrong?
...and the question is not about diameter (diameter is perfect match: 5mm I guess for 450 heli), the problem is that the tool is too long (the pipe, or tube, or "leg" of the tool - lifts the swashplate too high on the axel), so the swashplate seems to position on the axel too close to the blades, when the servos are in neutral... so if I set swashplate this way, then if servos lift up their levers, then the swashplate won't lift more... so I just want to cut the tool to be shorter, the I can position the swashplate lower and level it there... the question is I'm not sure how low or high the swashplate should be. I guess somewhere in the middle between blades holder plate and the body axel bearind holding plate...
Make sure all servo arms are at 90 degrees in idle up and adjust servo to swash links to level the swash by eye. remove the head leaving only the main shaft and swash. Fit the tool over the shaft and down on the top of swash plate. Then adjust the servo to swash links to level the swash. Generally to achieve proper pitch range the swash needs to middle way between its maximum up and down range.
Thanks . I assume that "idle up" is the proper name of the "neutral servo position" . looks like I did wrong: I removed everything from the main shaft (leaving only the main shaft and body) and fitted the tool over the shaft and down to the body (narrow side down). Then fitted the swashplate over the shaft and down on the tool (so that the swashplate appeared between the 3 "small legs" of the tool). Then adjusted the servo links when keeping the leveled swash plate on top of the tool... Then installed the rotor head and adjusted the links by eye. Then disconnected the servo links and removed the rotor and swash assembly from the shaft. Then removed the tool. Then returned the rotor&swash assembly... To do that, I needed to modify the tool, and I want to do your way (if it is critical), I need to find another tool now .. But maybe it's not critical as long as I have leveled the plate anyway... Can you please tell me the "underwater stones" of the "my way" adjustment?
'IDLE UP' is stunt mode. I don't know what transmitter you have but most will have a switch with 'normal/stunt' modes. In idle up you will have full swash movement and pitch range and should have zero pitch at mid stick position.
To use the tool you need to make sure that in idle up your servos arms are at 90 degrees so they have an equal range of travel and this is when you level the swash plate. To do this just remove the head and blades etc leaving the swash plate attached to the links, you then lower the tool down the shaft onto the top of the swash plate and adjust if needed to get it level.
You use it for leveling the helicopter blade.
Fits up to 450 for 5mm shaft.
Zdejujesz main rotor. Put it on the shaft and the Inventory nuzkami set the dial.
Do you use trim to all dolegaly feet together equally.
Weight is about 20g
Do not fly with this :)
the alloy and machining on this isnt quite "rotor head" quality(was never meant to be). checkd mine out closely and wouldnt even consider it for anything otherr than its intended purpose. let us know how it goes.
Don't know about the T-Rex 450. But the legs are too short for my HK450GT as well. The whole tool sits on the inside of the swash plate as well as the linkage balls even before the legs touch the arms of the swash plate.
I used a sharp kitchen knife to cut away the inside of the tool's legs to a 45deg angle. Now it fits properly over the balls and down onto the swash plate. Only took me 5min. Great tool I use it on my KDS,CopterX and HK450 swash plates.
I filed the inside edges of the feet to clear the balls on the swashplate then it sat down like its supost to on the swash arms and i used it on my copter-x 450 and the hk450gt but the copter-x is running a hk450gt head replacement
Sorry, Andrew but I don't get your point? Why would I want HK to remove the item? I bought it because I needed one of these tools. And I think its a great tool for setting up a 450 helicopter correctly. The buddy code is just a small bonus for somebody to get it a bit cheaper.
Sorry if im wrong. but if i buy a item from hobby king and i find out it's the wrong item i can ask hk to remove the item and get the full amountcredited back to my account as a credit. now if you get someone to use your buddu code do you get a full refund a little extra. example if it cost $5 with you get $5 $1.50 = $6.50. or will you only get $1.50 and some other guy will have to pay $3.50? do you understand what im saying?
would'nt it be a lot easier if they made it to put under the swashplate that way you only have to remove the main gear and not tear down the whole main rotor assy. that way you just pop off the ball links and pull the main gear slide out the rotor and you can use the tool to align the assy. then remove it and you would be done insted of pulling the whole assy. down.. food for thought-no?
used mine by removing the head assembly which is basically one nut/bold and 4 linkages to the swash plate. This on a Thundertiger mini-titan. Not sure how you would to this fro mbelow but I guess it depends on the helicopter model.
Hi mate the sell a 5mm for 400 to 450 heli with a 5mm mainshaft, 8mm for a 500 to 600 heli and smaller gas engines, 10mm for 700 electric and most gas helicopter from 50 and above to 90. hope this help. Oh yes if you have any problems with the 5mm tool not seating properly down on the swash legs due to the balls, I used a sharp knife and cutted the inside of the tools legs to a 45deg angle so that it does not touch the balls
nutcraze on youtube video tells and shows how and where it goes and what it does i forgot if it on the hk500gt or hk600gt build video but its on one of them that shows the set up it sure saves a lot of guess work well worth watching
Hi this is a swash leveller to level the swash plate on your heli. This is to use with CCPM swash types ie where 3 servos work to gether for pitch movements etc on your heli. You can find videos on set up on You tube. The main thing it does is it levels the swash so that when you give pitch up or down the swash does not dance on its way up or down. Makes the heli fly a lot smoother, almost hands off hover.
I don't have any images but its easily explained. On your main shaft, take off everything above the swashplate so that the servoes still move it but thats all. Put the tool on the main shaft and the three arms should touch each 3 servo linkages, if not adjust the subtrim of each swash channel until each one touch.
Remove the main rotor head from the shaft and the linkages from the swash plate balls. Place the tool over the shaft and move it so that the 3legs sits over the swash plate three positions if the tool touches the balls it use a sharp knife and cut away a 45deg angle on the inside of the tool's legs or buy the HK450pro 5mm tool your choise. Remove two wires from your engine to speed controller unit. Switch on your transmitter and select your pitch curve menu.There should be two pitch curve menus,
This is NOT useful on the HK-450TT Pro. The arms are too short and do not reach the swash arms. Furthermore the arms do not extend down far enough and the body of the tool hits the top half of the swash.
I have been waiting for this also. Would be nice to find it in the U.S. for $5.00 This way I could pick it up locally or pay less for shipping. Maybe I should just make some so we don't have to wait for these to come in stock? :)
I do have the capability. Mill and Lathe. I just don't know what the height of these are. Everything else is simple. I just wanted the height so the swashplate is the correct height even though I set mine up without it.
try your local machine shop im sure it wont cost that much to have made even for the larger heli so long as you got the basic idea and measurements its only 2 cents worth of metal and you can amaze you flying buddys the'll think you thought of it for the big birds
Sorry ** have to revise my answer. NO, this tool will not work with the 450 Pro because the Pro swash plate is larger vs. other 450s. As such, the three "legs" do not touch the outer ring on the swashplate. :-(
This is a must have to set up a perfect swashplate.Will fit blade 400 and Hk450 main shaft.Presition CNC milled and just add to your cart on your checkout,you will always find it handy,much more accurate than the allen key method.Excellent price
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These arrived just as I was going to place my latest order so I picked one up! It looks exactly as in the picture above. It fits my HK450 5mm shaft well and sits where it's supposed to on the swash for leveling purposes. Unless you have a very level eyeball, this is going to save you a ton of time, money and frustration. Absolutely stunning deal on a very helpful tool. Thank you HobbyKing!
For the perfect 120 degree ccpm setup. Remove rotor head above swash and slide tool onto main shaft, let legs touch swash arms, then adjust links for even contact on all three (all servos in mid position) - when correct then move pitch travel to furtherest plus & minus, adjust endpoints (in radio) for even contact.