Super 3D flatform EPO R/C Plane w/ ESC and Brushless Motor

 Wazza_99 864 points

No worries. To get it, I mount all my electronics forwards as possible. Managed to get the balance right with a 800mah 2s battery. But since its 3d, you can take the CG backwards to suit your style of flying cause some people like it tail heavy on purpose to harrier etc.

 Wazza_99 864 points

56-58mm is a good place to start with the CG.

 Alexander 36 points

I would be checking your battery condition as mine hovers nicely and still can power out and I'm using an 850 2s.

 tractor 123 points

YES, it has a bec.

 Wazza_99 864 points

Nopes, it comes with necessary connectors already soldered.

 dinislam101 86 points

buy it from Netherlands postage is also cheap.

 Wazza_99 864 points

It should. I fly mine with a 500/800mah.

 Aremon 42 points

you have it in manual. If I remember, about 2-3cm from the leading edge.

 Wazza_99 864 points

The CG on the manual is a bit off. 56-58-60 was good for my style of flying with a 500mah battery.

 bdoets 279 points

I guess that's milimeters from the leading edge? Thanks, that looks like it. I trashed the manual after finishing the model, stupid...

 Wazza_99 864 points

Yes bang on! But as its 3d, some like it tail heavy on purpose. I found that for me that was the best combination. I will fly it on a 800mah battery next cause I only have one 500mah and I hate recharge times! The HK manual doesn't state where the CG is. But one more thing to consider, I have the servos under the wing compared to behind it.

 luan 1 points

Try turning on your transmitter with the throttle stick pushed all the way open (up). This will put the ESC in programming mode. Then plug in the battery to the ESC. You will hear corresponding beeps for the number of cells used. Once the beeping stops, unplug the battery to ESC and Transmitter. Reset throttle stick to closed position and try hooking up your setup again. This should work if you have a good ESC.

 inabiscuit 1 points

OK done just that. Nothing. It seem like it continues and starts a Tune like a Music Scale. Any advice?

 luan 1 points

Other than following this from my personal experience (almost threw away 3 good ESCs)by trail and error I don't have other suggestions. Can you try again but, 1)Make sure that the throttle is up BEFORE turning on the transmitter. 2)Turn on receiver and wait for the beeps (should stop beeping if this works) 3)Power off receiver and Transmitter 4)Close throttle (down stick) and Turn on both normally. Good luck.

 inabiscuit 1 points

No. It continues to go into a series of Beeps after the Musical scale ta, da, da, da, da. Then Beep, beep ...beep, beep beep....then 3 and 4. Then a 2nd time with a higher 1st beep and the same 1,2,3 beeps afterwards. Prob ESC went Bad. Don't know of anything elce to do. Whew...

 inabiscuit 1 points

OK so here is the "Fix." The Transmitter throttle "Adjuster" had to be All The Way Down. Then....it Recognized it and ESC was Programed! Whew...

 vitorsabadin 22 points

Mine come with NO ESC, so I tryed the HK and the Turnigy, both presented the same issue, and I'm not able to fly so far.... Can some one help me please???? I think I have about the same issue of Inabiscuit, once I connect the battery, I got some weird sounds and the motor respond to the throttle, but looks like with not too much power. Ath the moment I install the propeller, and I try to give some throttle, the motor not start and start making some tik,tik,tik,tik and not start speening... Once you remove the propeller, satrt spinning, again.... I happens with bothe ESC! Is any programming missing??? Please, help!!!

 Aremon 42 points

yes. it's so low-cost version

 inabiscuit 1 points

OK so here is the "Fix." The Transmitter throttle "Adjuster" had to be All The Way Down. Then....it Recognized it and ESC was Programed! Whew...

 Louis 32 points

Efficiency is poor 3S (<70%) but jumps to 80% 2S: 12,303 rpm * 7.52 volts & 7.37 amps. Kv is too high for 8040 HD and efficiency suffers. 3S is good with 5043 prop. Numbers okay for the motor weight.

 Louis 32 points

I would reccomend not using 3S on that motor unless you want to burn up the motor and ESC both. 3S would only work in fast forward flight.

 Szabo 9 points

all devices :)

 ccatalin 239 points

yes there are carbon fiber with shrink tube and small hinge connector

 Glenn 13 points

No. You don't

 ccatalin 239 points

require just to glue. The Esc and Motor have 2mm connectors ...so NO SOLDER REQUIRED

 Gary 2974 points

It would be OK indoors but it is a bit on the heavy side,best to use a model that weighs around 170g or less.

 Electric Power 466 points

I was thinking that myself, I may go Great Planes Citabria or RC Universe biplane. Both are bigger but have seen both in the air flying.
Thanks

 Szabo 9 points

no need for bracing

 Glenn 13 points

I put I small piece in the front of the plane where it hits the ground and it helps a lot.

 ccatalin 239 points

it's recommended that 3mm carbon rod to be put on main wing.

 Darkcore7 7 points

Yes. This plane harriers quite slowly if that's what you mean. But you can basically get this thing to stop whilst flying. Then it goes fast when you want it to. I maidened mine just recently and is very floaty. But if ur going to fly indoors then you will have to protect the bottom of the plane with tape because of the no landing gear issue.

 tino 14 points

I would fly this outdoors on a small soccer field (about the size of a gym without a roof) p.s. does this plane also come with pushrods and etc.

 Glenn 13 points

Try to get the cg around 17cm

 Darkcore7 7 points

Don't worry, they are in stock now.

 ccatalin 239 points

you can't I try it but there is no way that esc is programable

 Mats H 7 points

I bought my 3D-Hawk 2 yrs ago and I can program the ESC!
This ESC has a one level menu of 1 to 16, symbolized by 1 to 16 beeps.
1 beep = 2-cell LiPo
2 beeps = 3-cell LiPo
3 beeps = change rotational direction
4 beeps = quick (normal) rev-up
5 beeps = slow rev-up
7! beeps = slower rev-up
I cant identify any brake function in this ESC.
Programming:
a. Tx ON and Throttle MAX.
b. model batt CONNECT. The programming sequence will begin with 1 beep, after some seconds 2 beeps and so on, up to 16 beeps.
c. To set i.e. function no 1 put the Throttle to MIN after the 1 beep signal. After few seconds the ESC will confirm with ta-dee beep signal. If you want to continue programming, put the Throttle to MAX. The ESC will then continue with next function, in this example the 2 beep. IF you want to exit instead, just keep the throttle in MIN. After few seconds the ESC will confirm exit with ta-dee-ta-dee beep signal. The ESC is now in normal operational mode and you can fly. Good luck!

 Glenn 13 points

Mats H, what the the 6th,8th,9th,10th,11th,12th,13th,14th,15th, and the 16th beeps stand for?

 fabian 1 points

alguien conoce las instrucciones al completo de este variador

 Darryl 32 points

Also would I use a slow fly prop or a dd prop??

 Wazza_99 864 points

I used an 8x4 prop and 800mah battery with the stock setup. 450mah up to 800mah seems to be fine. Whether its a good second plane depends on our skill to be honest. You can still limit the throws with DR/Expo if you have a computer radio.

 Dan O. 401 points

Personally, I think that this would be an OK 2nd plane looking at it right now. It has large control surfaces, making your stick movements much more sensitive. What did you use for your first plane? This plane is made to be both maneuverable and durable.

 Glenn 13 points

It doesn't really matter what type of prop just the size. I used a gws 8x4 slowfly prop and it works great.

 inabiscuit 1 points

I found a Great Deal on Props at ****84hobby**** EP-8043 (Orange) for .45¢* Each. I bought 20 for $9.00. They are Sturdier than what comes with it.

 Kellyann 16223 points

Polycapman yes it can but the motor will NOT. I hope this helps.

 Polycapman 56 points

You again Mr. Kellyann, with high knowledge of this hobby :-) Thanks for always helping me.

 Kellyann 16223 points

Polycapman ???? MR ????? Not last time I checked!. Us girls can fly too!!!

 Polycapman 56 points

Opps my mistake, my apologies Kellyann... I thought you're ID is not your real name. Kelly-ann with no space like asian name to me.

 Bigshou4u 73 points

I would not suggest landing gear on this model since it is light but i imagine some piano wire and some braces made from carbon rod would work.

 VirtualCowboy 20 points

Bigshou4u, you were right. Trying to add landing gear was a bad idea. I tried using the HK light wire gear and small wheels with a wire skid for the tail, but about the second time I landed hard in the street, it tore off even braces with wooden chop sticks going to the wings. Had to glue popsickle sticks to fill the gap. Now my problem is with the prop coming off the prop saver, even though it flew pretty well until then prop came off, but need more O-rings.

 Glenn 13 points

Just get o rings the same sixe(or smaller) at lowes. I got a pack of ten for 3 dollars!!!

 Kellyann 16223 points

mrfourtysevenman No sorry. It is a 2 to 3 cell. If the voltage drops below 5 volt the low volt cutout come in. I hope this helps.

 ccatalin 239 points

yes you need to do that after adjusting the right dimension . You can also use tape or glue

 Kellyann 16223 points

Phil why? Do you not have a heat gun? If you are very careful you can use a lighter. I hope this helps.

 phanislo 15 points

The best and safer way is the shrink wrapping. But don't forget to pure some medium CA in it after you make the shrinkage.

 Nikers 192 points

use nano-tech batteries 25-40C. highest C you can find and you will have the best performance!( I mena use this one Turnigy nano-tech 460mah 2S 25~40C Lipo Pack)

 Krash Test Kev 21 points

Sounds good! =D Thanks Nikers!

 Nikers 192 points

No problem! Thanks for the credit!