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The Phoenix is an easybuild micro sport jet made from tough EPO foam that will provide hours of high speed, parkfly fun. The kit comes with a colour instruction booklet, hardware and decals and is a cheap build, ideal to just chuck in the car and fly, the Phoenix is cheap to buy, fun to build and a hoot to fly!
To anyone who actually has this little plane: Anyone clock the speed with the recommended EDF for it? It looks to me like it will be pretty quick, and I bought one, so I am curious on it' flight characteristics as well.
Hello everyone that have flown this thing, where is your COG at? The manual says 270mm measured from the nose, but there are people here recommending 220-225mm! I wonder what will make it fly the best, thanks.
Never mind, I tried with 235 mm but didn't get it in the air, but that was probably because it got way too heavy (AUW 284g) and didn't have enough power for that weight (3S 1300mA battery). Wrote a review with some more explanations of my attempt. Cheers!
Do you mean this one (HK order nr): F4-EDF? In that case I can't see why it shouldn't work. You won't be able to run on 3S I guess (due to the high motor KV), but you ran 2S with the F4, right? I would try it, it's just 15 bucks! I have a 50mm EDF taken from a HK Mini MIG-15 corpse, so I ordered this Phoenix to try and force it into that one. Fitting name then, the Phoenix birds rising from the ashes! :-)
Nah I actually haven't bought planes of hobbyking yet (looking to get 1 or 2 for the summer) but I thought "Hey that's AffinA the dude that helped me with my q-bot questions lets answer one of his to" :)
I just got this Phoenix, it came without any decals applied (so the plane was all white). The decals are self-attaching (i.e. not water-slide type), two sheets of them in total.
someone get me a doubt it uses 2 servos okay, okay how do I connect to them? I need a Y cable or have to put a mix and how do I perform the same function two servants of elevator and aileron GRATEFUL already provided to all who can help me?
No Y-cable involved here. If you have Elevon/Delta mixing enabled on your radio, you would connect one servo to the Aileron channel and the other to the Elevator. Elevon/Delta mixing allows Pitch and Roll signals to be sent to the servos at the same time. If you do not have elevon/delta mixing capabilities, you need to get a special delta mixing device. What radio will you use with this model?
Elevon mixing is not clearly explained for the HK 6ch v2 (aka FlySky, Exceed RC brands) but it can be done. You need to use the mixing function to get the two servos to move for pitch and roll at the same time. Video below should help. Good luck!
alguem pode me tirar uma duvia ele utiliza 2 servos certo ,certo como faç*o para para ligar eles ? presciso de 1 cabo Y ou tenho que colocar um mix e como faç*o para os mesmo 2 servos executarem a funç*ã*o de profundor e aileron desde ja GRATO a todos que puderem me ajudar
Actually, some pilots have used models this small for FPV using micro cameras and transmitters. The ELE Nataku Cushat which has an even smaller motor has been used for FPV - just depends on how motivated a person is to prove a point.
Your battery placement depends totally on where your center of gravity should be (CG). Keep in mind the CG in the manual is incorrect. It should be infront of the finger grooves.
You have to kill the motor before landing... :-) The build instructions for this plane show how to mount a motor in the rear to convert it to pusher, so it's definitely doable.
hi**are my controll surfaces right for this plane**right stick-right aileron up**stick back toward me**both ailerons up**stick forward away from me**both ailerons down**thx
That is the correct setup. So remember when you pull back on the stick, the plane will go up. Make sure you check the CG very carefully before you fly. MegaTesla in the reviews says "CG is 10-15mm in front of the finger grip dents". Good luck. Let us know how it flies.
Mine flies between 6 and 10 minutes depending on power management
Motor KB20-40-15L 3800kv Brushless Motor, 56mm turbine HyperFlow great flat and a nanotech battery 1000 3s 25c. Approximately 16 amperes peak.
The launch is easily done by hand, the landing is easy, the delta wing can remain stable even at low speeds. Speed **is very important for the size of the model, over 100 km / h but I have not enough to make a precise measurement.
They had the Seawind in stock for a short while, and I got one. Both Anthony and I think the quality of the kit is poor and that's why they don't sell them anymore.
What? Would you rather they chop it up a little bit further? Google volumetric shipping rates, it actually costs more to send things around the world because the postal services found a new way to make more money.
where do you have to place the servo's? the wings look too thin, and it might be hard to guide the control linkages from the fuselage to the elevons. or do you have to place them outside the fuse? what do you guys think?
Hey MegaTesla, can you confirm the COG at 10-15 mm ahead of the finger-grip dents? That would leave the COG at 220-225mm measured from the nose, compared with the 270mm that the manual says, a big difference...
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Hi guys, I just received this model a couple days ago. The fit and finish of the foam pieces is fine. Nice decal sheet. The rudder foam is a bit rough, might try to smooth is down some..the rest of the foam is smooth. The parts are strong enough for what they are, not too thin anywhere. My ELE 40mm fan fits perfectly in the grooved slots. The 2.5g servos fit in pockets just back of the finger hold pockets. One interesting thing on mine: The front canard airfoils were cleanly cutoff. Just the outline of them shows on the side of the fuselage? They are not included in the package. I don't know what this means...mistake? Design change? I haven't had a calm enough day to fly it yet. I suspect the CG will be critical, so expect some time spent tweaking it. Nice small plane to keep with you ready to go anytime. Easy, fast build, and looks sleek. Good purchase if the maiden flies like I expect it will! Will post more when I have it................. Ken
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The Phoenix is awesome!! I'm going to add another one to my next HK order!!
I'm currently clocking mine at 77mph on 4s and it flies like it's on rails!
I got rid of the wingtips and reduced the intake and exhaust a bit. CG is 10-15mm in front of the finger grip dents.
ARC-20-34-2 (ARC 130) Motor (in a BIM shroud - check RCGroups)
AEORC 8-blade fan
20A ESC
Turnigy nano-tech 850mAh 4S 45~90C
Very solid setup as the ARC has a 2mm shaft, so the AEORC adapter can be used with the 40mm fan.
I haven't received it yet , still waiting backordered items ... I have in purpose to use the EDF40mm 8400kv on it Hope that suits good enough ...
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I bought this just for the h.ck of it, wanted to reuse some electronics I had laying around from a Mini MIG-15 wreck (fan, motor and servo rods). Had to do some serious enlarging of the air duct to get the motor in (less than optimal duct resulted). Used regular HK15178 servos, R610 RX, Nano-Tech 3S 1300mAh battery, 30A DLUX ESC. In the end, it got very heavy, AUW 284g instead of the 155g that the manual speaks of. I guess it goes without saying, but it never got into the air, I tried all ways I could think of to throw it but no luck. Maybe with a landing gear and a sufficiently long runway it would have taken off... :-) To be fair, the way I set it up was just not right. With these small models every gram counts, so make sure to shave off all dead weight you can (and use gear appropriate for the plane). Still, had some fun, kit's not bad at all.
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