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This Micro A-10 is supplied with 2 x 30mm fan units and motors that give fantastic performance. Like the pusher version, it flies so well you would have thought it was 3 times the size!
Assembly is fast and the model even comes with scale looking under-carriage for those flying off pavement runways, a full colour instruction sheet, hardware, glue and decal sheet are included.
Specs: Wingspan: 556mm Length: 512mm Flying Weight: 155g Material:EPO EDF: 30mm Fan with C10 motor
Requires: Your own 4 channel TX/RX 400~500mAh 2s Lipoly Battery 2.5g Servo x 2 6A~12A ESC w/BEC x 2
Okay...
Just think a little.
This is a 30mm fan unit provided. It means it's very small unit. Any kind of motor is identified by a label and a number. Label is inner or out runner. Number is composed of 4 numbers in mm, so usually a 1220 means 12 mm circonference for 20mm long. For any EDF, innerunner is more reliable that outrunner. You need a motor that would fit inside the tube without voiding air to travel. So it must be half the size of the tube or less. In this case, i think the solution is :
2040 Brushless Inrunner Motor 4800kv
This one needs a 25A ESC, so with a mixed engine, you'll also be needing a 50 amp ESC.
This setup would give you plenty of power for a small 3S 1200 mah 40/50C to 1600 mah 30/35C battery.
If the Shaft is 1.5 instead of 2.3, just enlarge it.
Don't "bin the lot", but I would give up on this plane. It is just too low quality, super cheap foam and bad QC. Use the remaining parts on another build. I got the pusher outrunner version and just decided to do that from the start. BTW, this is a basic wing type, so the CG would be best to start with 25 percent of wing chord and move back slowly from there if slower flight (with less stability) is desired. A little nose heavy to start is always best with warbirds.
I don't have one, but I don't think they make counter rotating versions of these fans. So they almost definitely spin the same way (that's also how it's shown in the pictures).
Ok, so I bought this without reading the reviews first...Well skimmed over the reviews. Thinking no one in their right mind would sell a jet recommending a 500mah battery for a plane that draws 25amps, I was thinking these motors were around 9 or 10 amps max, so I got 2 thunderbird 9's. Didnt work obviously. So I hacked the plane apart and got to electrifly 12's. These speed controls just burned out the motors. Good times! Do not use elecrifly ss12's in this plane. They will cook the motors. The timing is wrong. I am going to email Electrifly and complain. So Im out 160.00$ in plane and 4 speed controls. Can anybody recommend a speed control for this plane?
i too have ordered a micro a10 i am waiting for it to arive in 2 weeks i guess. the thrust the 30mm jets are claimed to have is around 48g/1.69oz i have ordered larger batteries hopefully im not going to make it to heavy =)
You MUST use 1 ESC for each any time you are running BRUSHLESS motors as they are actually running on 3 phase ac current. The ESC measures the timing from the feedback "pulses" from the motor therefore negating the ability to run more than one more motor per ESC.
Does anyone know if the Zippy-K Flightmax 700mAh 2S Lipo would fit in this plane? It's only 15g heavier than the recommended 460mah battery and it's rated to higher amps.
I have the beast as a pusher. Bat plug is JST. Battery room is (mm): 95 lenght, 20 wide, 38-23 deep. I purchased 2s 460mAh nanos. They fit nice but not right up in the nose. Removing some foam from underside of the canopy make the battery fit in the nose OK if needed. And the 500mAh zippy is same thing. I prefer nano-tech over zippy. More power, longer life and lighter plane.
Joumana: A BEC is an electronic component that powers the servos from the same battery that powers the motor. Some ESC have a built in BEC and others, like the opto series, need a separated BEC to power them. When a plane have plenty of servos, it is advisable to have an external BEC in case the ESC dies you can still control the plane.
joumana you have gotten a few answers. They all seem good. But may I add that BEC stands for battery eliminator circuit. Mostly you will get it built into your ESC. Some larger ESC's use external one. 40amp and above. You also could just use a RX battery but it all adds weight. So I hope this helps
joumana so once again let me add to the great advive above. V tail is used for a V tail plane. No rudder and the rear elevator makes a V. Also it can be used for Elerons and Flaperons. None of these are in use in this Plane.
Easiest way to describe it is Google ... just Google brushed vs brushless and you will have enough info to see where technology has taken us .. just easier to describe that way
According to AEOs website the C-10 motors provided in their 8-bladed 30mm fan are 13000KV.
That's a lot of RPMs on 2S - but you pay for it as they draw 13A each!
Given this you certainly do not want to use the 6A ESC - go with 2x 12A ESC as a minimum and exercise throttle control.
The other problem is the battery. Drawing a maximum total of 26A you need a pretty decent battery to power those fans! Getting the right balance between total flying weight and a decent battery will need some consideration.
I'd really like to know exactly what setup Hobbyking used to fly their model?
nope, you're all way off. It's not a hobbyking motor or EDF, they're sold for $28 each from **********s! If you google Item#: 88E-DF30213-ADF30-100-8000KV you'll find it. This kit looks like a great buy, worth it for the EDF motors alone
Alright what gives here?
HK released the pusher version and claimed the EDF version flew like a brick - and now lo-and-behold the EDF version - with claims that it flies fantastic? >:(
10 bonus points says that this post is deleted!
Different motors. Personally I liked the pusher more, it flew very well. This will appeal more to the go-fast customer that likes the noise and appeal of EDF.
Yeah, that's about all the jet is worth. Better go read all the reviews and comments on the pusher version. Don't know why they're calling it EPO again when they made that same mistake the first time. It's actually a big bead, light weight, slightly flexible EPS. But MegaTesla, you're right, good deal, especially when you consider the 2x ESCs and 2x servos too (if the notoriously finicky 30mm EDFs actually work).
If this Warthog actually came with the 2 x ESC's and 2 x Servos's, and pre-installed, it'd already be in my shopping cart. Still, a reasonable deal though, assuming the EPO foam is of a good quality...
This comes with the better faS THAN THE GRAY vertion if you want to buy the fan on the combo vertion there the 6 blade and i read the reveiws on them there not so good, hope these are good they look very ridgid (8 blade) nice but i hope the motoers can handle the fans.
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