Hobbyking Y650 Scorpion Glass Fiber Pan/Tilt Camera Mount

 SteveOr 1 points

I realize my original servos were analog after all. Maybe going to a slower servo did the trick.

 tommy2toes 2160 points

yes thats right slower is way beter for all pan n tilt stabilizer servos. brushless would be best but still slow.

 SteveOr 1 points

Thanks for the confirmation. One issue is on roll the gimbal is smooth in one direction but slightly twitches in the other direction. Any idea why?

 tommy2toes 2160 points

more weight on one side than the other. so it works easy one way twitchy the torque way or to the side thats heavier right? get a bigger servo or one that has more power. 180 degree fpv servos metel gear sold for the fat shark seem to work nicly for fatshark but you probably want a little bigger servos for go pro gimbal. 14g metal gear at least 3.5kg torque should be good slow smooth id look for 180 degrees turning for perfect head tracking to match your movment degrees your head can turn.

 tommy2toes 2160 points

try futaba 20gram shold be good didnt see wow 43g too big imho. could be your gyro increments twitching the servo as well test them on your remote to see functioning make sure there is equill turning both ways this is most important.

 SteveOr 1 points

Yeah, my camera mount was heavily unbalanced on one side. But this is primarily because the design is asymmetrical. I put some temporary counterweight to balance but I still had the same problem. Replaced the pitch servo with an identical standard size slow servo (only standard servos fit the camera mount without modification) and it moves much smoother now. But both servos twitch a little in the same direction. I guess you get what you pay for. I'd love for it to be smoother but it works for what I'm doing* goofing around.

 tommy2toes 2160 points

youll have to keep on them before time is up. ask for their advise what you are to do? make them write their answer.

 Russell 1 points

After several weeks, HK did send the missing part.

 tommy2toes 2160 points

it should its made for y650 i dont see a difference both being 650mm same size frame

 walska 1 points

Hi Rusell, i have the same problem.I buy the parts at jan. 7. and missing the first piece with the screw.its 2 month ago and a lot of Email but nothing happens. Great service !!!!!

 tommy2toes 2160 points

always pay with paypal they will help when no one else will. item not all there or not as decribed send it back with tracking paypal will pay your money back nomatter what hk says. take pics for proof to.

 walska 1 points

Hi tommy2toes Now its April 17. and i waiting for these Part.

 walska 1 points

Today the part arives me April 20. Thanks HK

 Russell 1 points

After several weeks, Hk has sent the missing part.

 majik01 2891 points

Pitch and Roll servo for gimbal control. The third is for camera trigger (if you use it).

 radu88 25 points

Hi kyrkbymannen. Can you please tell me how you connected the 3 servos to the Naza unit? I only have 2 ports for gimbal control on the naza. So, where is the 3rd servo connecting?

 kyrkbymannen 69 points

Hi, i did not use the console for the third servo, but that is for triggering and is not supposed to sit in the naza, the third one is supposed to be connected directly to the reciever to pull a camera trigger. I did a solution with a "prism" remote trigger and a pentax WG-2 camera instead, which simulate an acutal pentax remote... nothing that can fail mechanicly with that solution, and much lighter.

 radu88 25 points

Thank you for your answer, now i understand why there are 3 servos required :)

 kyrkbymannen 69 points

Sure, there is also only 2std servos, if you need the trigger, the third servo is a microservo.

 radu88 25 points

Thank you kyrkbymannen. I have just made an order with these 2 of these servos www.link you think that they will do a good job for this gimbal?

 radu88 25 points

Here is the link: www.link the servos are: "HobbyKing HK-922MG Digital Metal Gear Servo 1.8kg/ 12g/ 0.07sec" What do you think?

 kyrkbymannen 69 points

Radu, you need to cancel that order because those are mini size servos and you need standard size servos, two of them. The only miniservo you need is for the trigger if you honna use that. As stated earlier, hk has a faulty description.

 radu88 25 points

Will do that right now, thank you kyrkbymannen :)

 radu88 25 points

Did you find a good servo to do a good job with this gimbal?

 kyrkbymannen 69 points

No , not yet, but there are some i've been looking at here around 25$ each, not exactly super cheap. But digital standard size servos. The gimball itself is surprisingly stable, but the servos need high resolution, and i dont know how to see on the servos if they have high resolution.

 radu88 25 points

Here is website that i just found with details about most existing existing servos today (servodatabase****). Let me know if you find a good one

 shamim 28 points

I like your landing gear where may I find it?

 __BB-Q 214 points

You would be better off with digitals with good resolution. Also, the KK2.0 board 1.5 firmware update now has the option for camera stabilisation using pins M7 & M8.

 haley0918 16 points

Nope, 2 axes only. You have heading hold on your multicopter flight controller most of the time that work pretty well.

 haley0918 16 points

any standard sized servo could fit i personally used vigor vs-2a on this

 Janekx 3 points

Thanks and no center or shaking problem?

 haley0918 16 points

there's quite some backlash for the vigor, but it could be a reference size that fits.

 Janekx 3 points

Thanks

 kyrkbymannen 69 points

Do not use Vigor on this, i did, and watch the attached clip. All the shaking is because of the servo, you need a faster digital servo for sure or it will fail!

 Nyana 88 points

I got 3 sets, Both roll and pitch servo must use standard servos, I suggest don't use faster speed servos and high torque. Use low speed and low torque, to get smooth video. I use Power HD Standard Servo 43g/3.5kg/.15sec. in between your link, put some rubber ring and tide a bit. :) find on youtube, (Hexacopter crash middle of flight , propeller spinner was flew away.)i use this frame, and no post stabilization done, but it's crash.

 __BB-Q 214 points

Get the KK2.0 board and flash it to the v1.5 firmware. Then you can use the M7 & M8 pins for auto camera stabilisation.

 Nyana 88 points

I just finished my testing for this Gimbal. I am disappointing and regret that I bought cheap servo(BMS-620MG High Torque Servo (Metal Gear) 9.1kg / .15sec / 50g_12$) for Roll axis. Because it's very shaking when multicopter roll.But for pitch can use cheap one. Actually this BMS-620 seems like nice one. :( So we should buy good one, I don't know which one is nice, I need to find out.

 kyrkbymannen 69 points

Did u find a good servo?

 WiseDuck 227 points

I put together this one the other day. It has three slots for servos. Two slots for standard servos, one for a micro-servo such as the HXT900. When you use a flight controller with stabilization, the servos are used to keep the camera level at all times. You MUST buy servos which center well, otherwise it won't work well. The orange Hobbyking servos are not good for this gimbal, I've tried them, there is a lot of play in the center. So if you buy this gimbal, buy quality servos.

 SteveOr 1 points

I finally got this assembled and mounted to my DJI F450 but having trouble adjusting it. I have BMS-631 Super Fast Servos controlling the pitch and roll but the camera mount really shakes when it is adjusted for roll (it kind of twitches). Is there a dummies guide for setting travel limits and gains for these things? Or could I have bought the wrong type of servo?

 speed demond 39 points

What is 2 good Standard Servo?

 Nyana 88 points

I just finished my testing for this Gimbal. I am disappointing and regret that I bought cheap servo(BMS-620MG High Torque Servo (Metal Gear) 9.1kg / .15sec / 50g_12$) for Roll axis. Because it's very shaking when multicopter roll.But for pitch can use cheap one. Actually this BMS-620 seems like nice one. :( So we should buy good one, I don't know which one is nice, I need to find out. If someone know, please tell me.

 Augusto 15 points

I want mean the Bumble Bee frame: www.link

 WiseDuck 227 points

I think it'll fit on any frame with enough ground clearance. I use it on my DJI F550 hexa. Just make sure you have landing gear for your multi-rotor and a way of adding a counterweight, otherwise the motors up front will have to work much harder. Also, make sure to pick servos that center well. I bought the cheapo HK orange standard servos and there is some serious slop in those, stabilization on the roll axis is very very loose and not worth using with cheap servos.

 SteveOr 1 points

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 WiseDuck 227 points

I use zipties, lots of them. The F550 frame has lots of holes all over the place that I can feed them through. There is still some play though, the gimbal can be twisted a bit. You probably need to build some kind of solution. You also need to extend the legs somehow, unless you want to land using the gimbal.

 kyrkbymannen 69 points

I plan to use it on my F550, have'nt recieved package yet though. I was planning to land on the gimball, it looks kinda flat, but is that a had idea?

 SteveOr 1 points

I wouldn't rely on the mount for your landing gear. Since where you mount the camera is a little bit lower than the other part of the mount it will be the first point of impact. But if you consistently land softly then it might be able to handle it. I had some leftover Meccano/Erector strips and other pieces that I attached to the arms to give my F450 enough ground clearance.

 Jonit 23 points

MultiWii

 wolfes1126 3365 points

Hi,
you can mount it to other Fram,es too, i am using this Mount on a LotusRC T580 by just making me a small Adapterplate out of a old Piece of PCB I had laying around.
If you look at the last Picture on bottom right there is this Arrow Looking PArt, it slides into the TOP SLOT of the Foam Pieces on the Mount. I made my Adapterplate to hold this Pice and you can slide it on and off. The other Piece very Bottom all the way on the right is like a LOCK-IN KEY that you can slide in the Arrow Part in front of the Foam to prevent of the Mount to slide of.
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 Murat Ali 6 points

looks like something to me

 (Jo) 104 points

What is the distance and diameter of the mounting tubes that should be used to fix this to my copter? Could someone measure it please!

 MegaTesla 579 points

looks like glass fibre to me...

 TheodorCher 11 points

looks like not HK product to me

 waldi_f 5 points

Looks like nylon, this is nylon

 sokalowy 70 points

Looks like black G10 to me

 edwin46 104 points

Looks like **** to me.

 wolfes1126 3365 points

It is black Nylon that also has a proteciotve Film on it that you have to remove before assemblying this Mount.
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 roboforcerX2000 168 points

Looks like a bargain to me:)

 MegaTesla 579 points

Actually it does look like black G10. If you liek this Info please let me get rewarded... thank you

 monit111 184 points

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 marcospratas 108 points

I like this camera mount. if you like this info buy me a beer

 n3m1s1s 1021 points

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 Ville 1 points

Will Canon SX130 fit this mount by width?

 MegaTesla 579 points

SX130 width = 113mm Mount width = 113mm It will probably not fit.

 tompleh 48 points

its 3..one in the main support for yaw (you can combine the servo with gyro for stabilize the shot when copter doing yaw)..one the for the up-downward angle (front-left side the frame)..and the last for shutter push button (front-right side)..

 tompleh 48 points

2 mini servo and 1 micro servo tobe exact..

 Chester_kz 10 points

A have already build this frame. I used 2 standard servo for 2 axis (pitch and roll or pan and tilt). I has no yaw support. I used Tower Pro MG995 this is not mini servo.

 wolfes1126 3365 points

Indeed it does NOT use mini Servos.
I have used the following Servos in my Mount like this i have bougfht somewhere else a few MOnths ago:
Produkt ID: BMS-621MG
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 n3m1s1s 1021 points

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 SteveOr 1 points

I finally got this assembled and mounted to my DJI F450 but having trouble adjusting it. I have BMS-631 Super Fast Servos www.link controlling the pitch and roll but the camera mount really shakes when it is adjusted for roll. Is there a dummies guide for setting travel limits and gains for these things?