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The Hobby King Kinetic 800 Mini Glider is a truly plug and play model. With no gluing needed the model snaps together with clever interlocking parts that will have you ready to fly in just minutes. The folding 8x5 Prop is powered by a 2226-1250kv motor and 30A ESC which requires an 11.1v 500mah~1000mah 3S1P lipo battery. All servo leads are tagged for easy setup and a Y-lead is included to help get you in the air fast. The interlocking wing system also allows the wings to be removed for easy transport and storage. Simply install your own receiver and battery and your ready to go!
A particularly interesting feature of the Hobby King Kinetic 800 Mini Glider is the lack of a traditional elevator. The entire horizontal stabilizer is used as an elevator providing extraordinary agility and precise control.
Specs: Wing Span: 800mm Length: 620mm Weight: 247grams (without battery) Servos: 4 x 4.3g Servo (Included) Motor: 2226-1250kv (Included) ESC: 30A (Included) Prop: 8x5 (Included) Battery: 11.1v 500~1000mah 3S1p (Required) Battery Compartment: 100mm L x 27mm W x 30mm D Material: EPO
Just wondering how long it would take for the "ChinaPost EMS Express to USA (Max 1.5kg) NO LIPO $28.81" to arrive, im located in arkansas and the website wont let me track the order.. Anyone had experience with this shipping?
I just ordered this plane and searched up some videos of how people fly it.
These people crashed it sometimes and I was wandering if any of you know where to get the motor and prop. Please answer asap
Hello. How can i program the ESC wich is used in the Kinetic 800?
The manual that i can find in the Files Section is not the right one and the typical procedure with connecting the battery while the gas stick is in upper position is not working.
You can use this: www.link this: www.link show up frequently. The only problem is that the motor is 3.17 and prop is 3 mm. But you can easy fix it or if the original spinner is alive just replace the blades.
can anyone tell me if I can fit a 1300mAh 3S lipo in this- maybe cutting away some foam perhaps- or even if it fits, will it be too heavy? thanks in advance!
1300mAh will be to heavy for this small model. I flown it with 850mAh 3s nano-tech which is 70grams and it's flying good, with plenty of juice left after 20 minutes of moderate flying.
If total beginner with no experience, I would say no because it's small and manoeuvrable. If you have some experience, especially with aileron models, then go with it! Its fun model, but for sure, not on windy days because it's too lightweight.
This was my first aircraft i flew as a beginner, the control inputs are swell. Has plenty of power to get out of sticky situations, but can also fly slow aswell, the gliding capability is great for slow peaceful flying and getting used to the controls. Credit if you find this helpful :)Happy flying
The FrSky R6B 6 channel receiver or any FlySky 'B' or v2 series) will fit and also bind with the 9x transmitter
Receivers designed for $pektrum DSM2 or Futaba FASST (such as the various HK Orange receivers) will NOT work with the 9x transmitter.
I think coz suitably sized LiPos of 800mA capacity or less come with the matching JST connector fitted as standard. My Kinetic sized 2S and 3S did, at least.
It is one of the most common connectors, if you prefer to use something different HK hold most of the alternatives so with a quick soldering job and some heatshrink you are good to go
Copie du Merlin Multiplex, bon planeur a garder dans la voiture pour toutes les sorties. Prevoyer 1 ou 2 pack d'accus supplementaire. Par contre, les autocollants ne tiennent pas, la colle est trop faible !
Okay, just once more, as I don't seem to be getting it. How do I set the ESC's throttle span on a Kinetic 800? Turn on receiver whilst the TX is at full throttle, wait for 2-beeps and then close-off the throttle, right? So how necessary is it for the motor to be disconnected during this calibration procedure?
Hi Waz, Thanks, yeah my ESC will arm dangerously with the throttle in any position at start-up. It seems to need configuration, but refuses ever to enter stick programming mode, and trim settings seem to have no effect. I'm working with the theory that an unwilling to learn throttle span ESC is the root cause for this programming failure, and am interested to know if motor disconnection might remedy that. Simply trying throttle calibration without the motor will require surgery in my case, so I don't want to 'carve-in' without some guided expectation of a successful result.
Well well what a coincidence! Was reading about this bird on the Groups and there is a Tressie there right on top of page 35! Odds are, its you! Sadly I can't help you since I'm merely doing research on this one for the time being, so I can't really comment. I've never had an Esc do that on me though. Kinda odd.
Hi Waz, Yep, that would be me over at RC Groups. This is my first RC plane, so I'm busy gathering the unexpected plethora of information required to set-up and successfully fly it. Gee, there's a lot to absorb, isn't there? 6-weeks in and I'm only just now starting to get a handle on such concepts as expo, rates and differential. I suspect that the last of these control enhancements may promise substantial performance gains for the Kinetic, though more time will prove things one way or the other.
Hi Waz, So, what's up with the Kinetic 800 study? Contemplating getting in on one of the last ones, maybe? I'm sure you're already well informed of HK's decision to discontinue stocking the Kinetic. I think that at present (15/02) they're down to just 33 PNF's, and only 26 ARF's left in the (possibly final) existent batch. Jolly shame I reckon, but then there's plenty of other options still available.
Yeah that's why I'm still on the fence with this little bird, spares will be dissapearing. I was thinking ARF, I put in my own gear. It seems pretty manageable, judging by the reports on the groups, I've noted that its better with the stock motor, glides well with ~500mah battery, flies like a dart with ~800mah, that a ~15A esc should be good and Turnigy 1440A servos which fit in nicely. Sorry for scaring you, but I had the same scare when I saw "tressie replied to you" while reading your post at the same time on the groups lol. Have a nice day.
Thanks, Antonio. I've just figured out how to set-up differential ailerons for the Kinetic on my Turnigy 9X, so am feeling a little more optimistic about conquering my present tip-stall issues. Thanks for your very welcome support.
Unable to enter program mode. Tried all the tricks: TX on, throttle on Max. ESC plugged into non-throttle channel. I have set a below normal minimum trim on the throttle OFF position because this ESC arms itself and spins the motor. There is no safe mode either. I do however believe that you could fly with this ESC but if the TX got turned off the motor would be told to spin. It is pretty much a defective pieceof**** ESC.
I've just discovered why so many rudder servo failures have been reported, also. In attempting to replace my own rudder servo, which apparently spontaneously stripped it's gearing, I discovered the servo control arm to be unsuitably long, and to be binding with the plane's EPO fuselage about the mid position.
I'm starting to see why HK don't want to sell the Kinetic 800 anymore.
I bought two Kinetics, one PNF and one ARF. The assembly is poor on the ARF. Glad I could assemble my own. This plane is great fun to fly, but as far as durability is really is not crash resistant at all. The servos that the PNF comes with look like they are the Turnigy ones. Good luck with yours Tressie!
Hi Cloudsuck, Thanks for the well wishes. Yes, the Kinetic 800's rudder servo seems to be about the same size as a Turnigy TGY-1370A, so thats what I've ordered as a replacement. The PNF version of the Kinetic 800 can't be beaten for value, but needs a thorough going over before 1st flight. Re-glue this, tighten that, un-bind here, etc. Wouldn't have any damage so far had I known, yet as it stands I'm already in some need of a new nose section!
back in stock? dident they stop selling them or just me misunderstanding?
"Kinetic Glider Super Sale 20/01/2012
We need to delist this product and make way for new stock. Get in quick while stocks last because this awesome little glider wont be back again!"
that stock got sold out in a day..
Seems it was a nice ploy to make some sales. Its a hot selling item, so I kinda wondered why they would discontinue it. Happy though, cause now is my time to get one.
Denis, de quel original parles tu? Tu parles du multi-plex Mer-lin? J'avoue que pour le prix, c est hyper abordable, mais il faut quand meme remercier Multi-plex car quelque chose me dit que c est une copie mdr!
Hi there, if you are referring to the C rating of your lipo battery, yes it will work. In fact the higher the C-rating, the better is the battery or the performance your motor can squeeze out of it. But in case of the Kinetic800 a 45c is not a must, the plane has adequate power with a standard 20 or 25c lipo. So its your choise what kind of battery you wanna buy, happy flying :)
Expect to be flying it all too briskly at only 1/2 throttle after launch with a 3S 20C, so the added expense and weight of a 45C just isn't justified. Run it flat-out with a 45C if you must, but expect catastrophic meltdown should you so choose to.
it only has a 10 amp speed control/the exrta wieght wont do anything.the motor doesent take much power.11.1 volts times 10 amps is only 110 watts.only by giving it 4 cells or a bigger prop would kill the motor or battery.so what if the battery can deliver 45 amps the motor wont even draw 10 amps with stock prop
Hahahaha, Kinetic 800 ownership just keeps getting better and better. One short maiden flight, and I'm already up for a spontaneously failed rudder servo. Oh, now the Kinetic is discontinued, so forget about replacement parts from here on. Okay, now we find that the ESC refuses to learn throttle span, or to enter programming mode. Fine. What now is this grinding, rough rotation of the prop that just started happening when the throttle is raised and lowered. You guessed it - victim subsidised return postage paid, and characteristically futile warranty claim failure of the ESC!
No more disappointing budget abuse. That's enough.
"Kinetic Glider Super Sale 20/01/2012 We need to delist this product and make way for new stock. Get in quick while stocks last because this awesome little glider wont be back again!"
"Warranty - Other stores will force you to ship the product back to China in full retail packaging every time! Hobbyking's warranty service is professional, fair and fast."
The clear inference is that HK will service your warranty claim without requiring you to fork out for product return.
How is HK's warranty service 'professional, fair and fast', if they have earned such a poor reputation for denial of valid warranty claims.
Hi Guys
i was just thinking would the Mini Swift be better than this plane???
Because i am looking for a slower type of glider that is very crash resistant
My other discussion below has more info about what i've flown
Thanks in Advance
Tom the flyer
The Kinetic 800 is quite fast, landings without flaps are really fast. It is crash resistant though, I have had a couple of bad landings. I haven't flown the Mini Swift yet, but seems like a good choice.
It does probably fly better. But as said, its fast. Its still a glider, but a fast one. I fly it on 3s, apparently on a 2s battery its slower. You might want to try it on a 2s first, and the go on a 3s. Its also quite responsive, so you might want to setup some DR and EXPO. Will this be your first 4 channel airplane? Before the Kinetic I have flown only the AXN Floter Jet, but it was a 4 channel.
So the other I typed a reply. It was about EPP foam It was not this plane but tom had the same problem. I copied and pasted a statement that EPP was used in ############# and car B U M P E R S. It only came out "and car ???per" Please come on it is not the rude but I do know why. Anyone else?
NewToHobbyKing has a few names like Mr. KalyanProdhan from West Bengal India Plus has accounts in the name of Sharron, Allison, Sally, Chris, DelSt and others. this person posed as a female on this forum and scammed over $2,000.00 off it and kicked off twice. But he's sneaked back in under a fake Name and is trying to get you to vote for him. He's liar and a cheat.all his/her/its votes are faked. he cheated to get them.
Spirit the ESC manual say 2s to 4s lipos. Most esc 25amp and above can handle at least 4s. Now the plane will be heavier so think C of G and fly ability?
Sorry guy i forgot to mention that i have also flone a 4 channel 3d airplane that belongs to my friend but when i flew it i only use rudder and elevator, just performing simple patters.
Thanks again
Tom
scammer this kellyann is the same just read.
NewToHobbyKing has a few names like Mr. KalyanProdhan from West Bengal India Plus has accounts in the name of Sharron, Allison, Sally, Chris, DelSt and others. this person posed as a female on this forum and scammed over $2,000.00 off it and kicked off twice. But he's sneaked back in under a fake Name and is trying to get you to vote for him. He's liar and a cheat.all his/her/its votes are faked. he cheated to get them.
would you guys recommend this plane for me. i have only ever flone a simply two channel with steering controlled by the two motors and have only done a little practise on a simulator. i am also looking for a plane this size as well because i don't have a very big flying field!
Thanks in Advance
Tom
If you click on DISCUSSION and then you can put a reply in on your own question. Anyway this is a great little plane and if you have flown a 3d then you will be fine. I fine it is easy to turn with ailerons and elevator than using rudder. With rudder turns you can get wing tip stall and your plane can just fall out of the sky. This does not happen with ailerons. You fly more like a bird. I hope this helps.
Andy2No well what Rx system do you have? You can switch the direction of the servos on the Transmitter. The transmitter should have a switch or is programmable. I hope this helps.
And2No I am so sorry. I feel so stupid. It is very very difficult. They put the servos in when they are built. I thing you can cut the servo out. The cable you are asking is it a cable (ie: servo to receiver) or push rod. Sorry do not wish to sound stupid again. Any way a very sharp knife. I find a very hot blade melts better than cuts. Once you have it out and replaced you can make a replace panel and hot glue it in. I hope I an on track this time, HAPPY NEW YEAR.
You have plastic patches on each side of the fuselage. One for rudder and one for elevator. They are glued on the fuselage, but you can take them apart with a sharp knife. After that, you will get access to the servo.
So Nenenod you can get to the servo OK. But cannot feed the servo wire?? Well cut it. Then put wire length on the new servo and run out side the body the back into the body near the wing. Or solider a male 3 pin into the cut servo wire. Or cut new servo and solider direct to cut wire. Remember the heat shrink or small rubber tube on the joins.
I hadn't thought of running the new one outside the fuselage. If you cut the existing one, can you pull it through a little to get to the end you want to solder, then pull it back when you've finished, or is it held in place by glue? I'm not sure what nenenob meant by crediting. Clicking the thumb works, clicking YES to "Was this the best answer?" doesn't. It just says "Result: No Credit Assigned" - another HobbyKing website irritating quirk.
I have problems with the safety switch off/programm mode when connecting the ESC to the battery. Unfortunately I forgot to connect the ESC to the RX for the first tries. After correcting that mistake the ESC started the motor after making 2 beeps (2s) and 1 other beep (brake?). I trimmed the Gas lower until it didn't work on the low position anymore. After that I couldn't get into programm mode even though I put the gas upto 130% in the TX and the safety switch off too did not work and the Motor started without me putting the gas to null before.
I can fly like this but I would really like the safety switch off when connecting the battery.
Can you give me some tips?
Have a nice day and a merry christmas
Manfet sounds you have a few problems. Firstly what RC system are you using? The esc wood not have reset it program just because you put power to it with out you receiver attached. I have done that many times. So where is the motor leveler when you trun plug the battery in. Do you have the transmitter on when you plug the battery in. Also it sounds like you have a hobby king 6ch computer programmable Rc set. With mine if I have the MOTOR stop switch, switched to motor stop when I plug the battery in then the motor will not go if I sswitch the motor switch to motor run. SO I hope I have helped.
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bonjour,
je possede ce motoplaneur depuis 6 mois et c est une merveille: voltige, plané, vol tranquil, avec ou sans vent, il se comporte tjr tres bien. Je possede aussi le merlin de multiplex et le kinetic se comporte mieux. Petits defauts: apres qques atterissages violents, les ailes deviennent un peu souples , les autocollants ne sont pas de tres bonne qualité. Les vols ont une duree de 20 min en moyenne avec la batterie prevue 3S 800 mA. Meme avec une keychain camera sctochée sur le nez, les reglages et le vol n ont que tres peu changés.
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Box-opening.
"Hard" facts:
Weight of kit without stickers: 230g
Static run with turnigy 3S 800mAh, after first charging:
Pull 480g at 8,2A 11,2V.
No load voltage after test run: 12,1V
Nice and smoth finisch of the moulding.
The Wing and the elevator is constructed in two parts each.
The wings is easy to detach, just puch a "notch" inside the boddy.
I don't think I dare to detatch the elevator again.
It was realy tricky to get together, be careful not to break it.
The problem I see is that it is nose heavy.
The wing corda is 11,5 cm, CG shuld be 4 cm from front of wing according to manual.
If I place the battery as far back as I can, just in front of the hatch lock I get a CG of 2,5 cm.
It the battery is under the hatchlock (the back of the hatch) I cant close the hatch, there is not enough space.
If I push the battery as far back as I dare I get a CG of 3,3 cm but can't put on the hatch.
There is more space further back but I cant get the battry there without modifications.
I think I can take out som material from the battry compartment and make another hatch lock and then I might get the CG correct.
As it is dark cold and snowy outside the testflight has to wait.... Sorry.
le top du top vol surper stable vif simple a piloter fonctione bien en 3s 1000mha j ai changer l helice pour une 8par6 aeronaute ne change rien a la conso mais augmente la vitesse
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I have owned one of these 800s for 7 months. It has done 75 flights on original motor and speedy. Most of these flights in central Australia in high heat. 2 servos have been replaced on ailerons due to rough landings but elev and rudd are both still original. Highly recomend can be flown quickly with a 3 cell or gently float around with a 2 cell. Has been a great value for me.
Un trs bon petit moto-planeur. Livr en 15j rien dire emballage soign et solide. Il est arriv tout mont et rgl je lai mis en lair sans rien toucher. Le plus long est la programmation de la radio! Penser recoller la cyano les renforts en fibre sur les cots. Le mien est quip en 2S 460mah RHINO et RX 6CH ASSAN ce qui permet une monte 30- 40. Pour le centrage 40 mm placer les 2 cote cote le plus lavant possible. Lavantage de cette config est davoir un modle trs lger gardant bien lesprit planeur. En 3S il sera plus lourd et planera moins bien, mais va voler plus vite et montra la verticale idal pour la voltige de base! En 2S, il consomme environ 5A et j'ai pu faire un vol de 15mn sans problme. Le moteur est peine tide latterrissage. Le seul reproche que je peux lui faire est la faible qualit des servos ce qui ne lui a valu que 4 toiles. En effet les servos sont un peu fragiles et manquent de prcision ce qui se ressent surtout sur laxe de roulis. Je pense quil va falloir les changer rapidement en prventif avant un gros crash. Le modle a fait 2 petites chutes et na absolument rien eu comme dgts. Il est trs solide. La boite en polystyrne peu ensuite servir au transport mais est un peu volumineuse. Idal pour les vacances ne tient pas de place, tout se dmonte (mme lempennage horizontal) et tient plat dans un petit sac. A part les servos, pour le reste rien dire pour ~75 FPI ne pas se priver.
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