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The F-18 was designed as a carrier based supersonic all-weather fighter/ground attack aircraft, which has been such a succesful design, the Hornet is flown by several airforces around the world.The F-18 features a high thrust/weight ratio and outstanding dogfighting capability courtesy of it's excellent arodynamic design. Having carved out a reputation for versatility and reliability, as well as earning as impressive combat record, the F-18 Hornet can be truly regarded as an aviation classic.
This stunning model does the F-18 justice both in terms of looks and performance, finished in the famous "Jolly Rodger" scheme, the fuselage features nicely moulded panel lines and excellent scale mouldings for the vertical stabilizers. The wing is foam core/balsa sheet and the large ailerons combined with the large all-moving tail means F-18 like maneoverability. The model comes with fixed under-carriage but is easily converted to retracts.
The Hornet is a fast jet and with the right set up, this model won't disappoint, this F-18 will need a 6s~8s set up to get the best from it, high speed is the name of the game but just as addictive are the "high alfa" slow passes, a superb flyer and a real looker, this big Hornet is a must for jet fans.
Would this plane be faster than my star max with the same alloy dps 1900kv fan/motor that hobby king sells here? It's a lander edge unit I believe. Anyone compare this to the star max 90mm f/a 18c hornet?
NO FLAPS ,As far as converting it to twin ,I would not try it I think you would wast your time and effort doing so , also there may not be enough room for the other stuff , like the other ESC and if you running 2 lipo's or one larger ,it may not plan out to work the way you want to do it. I thonk a single 90mm alloy fan will give you more power than you need , go with the 8S system if you want speed. SOUNDS GREAT TO ME . I HAVE A BIG PHANTOM 90MM.
Hi there, looking at ways to improve this awesome bird, it seems that the flaps are being used as ailerons, going to modify the wings and introduce alierons also working rudders, so in short it has flaps, ailerons, rudders, and of course elevators, also retracts, looking at HK slim wing servos for some of this, also fitting HK 90mm mercury alloy EDF, has any body done these mods, what parts did you use, its a bit of work but it can and will be done, Mel.
Hy everybody
I bought the fibre F/A 18 ,but i have got it without any building instructions.
So i need to know the CG point.
Thank`s for help and well flights all the time
Cheers Reto
The C of G point is 80mm back from the leading edge where the wing meets the fuselage.In the "Files" section,the tab under "Add to Cart" there is a building manual and a good picture showing how to measure the C of G.
for tx setup, i will recommended to start with values as below:
Elevator throws 15 mm up 15mm down. Use 50% exponential. Low rate 9mm.
Ailerons throws 13 mm up 13 mm down. Use 30% exponential. Low rate 8mm.
Dear SIr im Thomas From malaysia i like to try this Plan F-18 EDF 90mm Jet Fiberglass 920mm (ARF)But is my 1st time try to fly this plan!!!! so i really DUn how to fix it how use it, plzz let know what is TX/RX and whar else i got to buy....to get this plan air bond
for the tx and rx, better buy the 9x turnigy mode 2, and module FRSKY (use/buy JR type module), you wont go wrong with this tx and rx. a very good and cheap radio and rx.
I have flown Foamy jet, I don't have any idea what are the flight characteristic and behavior of fiber glass jet? is it better than foamy? what is the stall speed, 1/4 throttle or 1/2? nose dive with out recover?
hi:i love the f-18 i would bye it if you had it here in the usa warehouse the last time i order from you people the oder came from hong kong i got really screw from those sorry asses i will not pay seventy five dollars for and order that cost one hundred and thirty dollars if you get it down here e mail me
Is this plane coming for the EU-Warehouse? i`d like to get one, but not sent from HK with all the shipping issues like cracks, missing parts etc. any informations about that?
Sorry If I'm missing the answer to this q already See Ive bought the 90mm viper jet and flown it ONCE and the paint has pealed and chips soooo easy That ive already taken all the gear out and given up on it, Id like to set this one up instead But if the paint peals the same way them i will consider it another waist of money So my Q is. Is there any issues with this plane pealing paint badly like the viper jet dose?
IT CALLS FOR 6S -8S .IT WOULD BE FINE NO PROBLEM just make sure you have the ESC correct for the 8s if you decide to go more than the 6s,use a good brand ESC it make a differance on quality electronics. and servo's for the controls.
What is the correct C of G . My instructions say 9cm from LE. Old Prodesign instructions say 80mm from LE . Watch my video on youttube and you can see I planted my F 18E because it was too tail heavy at 90mm!!!!*******youtu.be/gyjGNaTF4ZQ discussions on RC Groups
Rocketboy1030 my manual says ""The idea C.G. position is 80mm behind the leading edge measured at where the wing meets the fuselage. Adjust the battery position to obtain the correct C.G. Check the C.G. before flying."" Do you have a manual??? I hope it helps. Can you fix her SORRY
Im using the DSR-46TL Electric Trike Retract Set www.link out my build blog on this plane on the forums I will be receiving my landing gear in the next few days and I will be showing you pics on how it is installed.
Has someone really bought this treasure? My impression is that this one and Viper Jet remain always on Backorder. I feel really frustrated as I wanted to buy one of them, but don't want to pay in advance for undefined time period.
i have just received my F-18 jet and all i have to say is wow. the quality of the build is amazing and it only took 10 days to reach me since i placed the order. i also have the viper jet on back order since 22-04 and have received it yet and i really want to cancel the viperjet order but since i waiting this long I wouldn't mind waiting longer.
The pics make the wing look very thick. Is it fast like the viper jet? Or is it s slug? Also its missing the missiles The sidewinders make this plane look really awesome
someone who already bought this plane and make a good set up can help me please? can you refer me on what to buy to make this plane a good flyer? servos, motor, esc, battery? i m always buying rtf jet before. so i don t have any idea about motor and other electronic component. i want maximum thrust with the original 90 mm fan. thank you for your help. Steve
have you tried reading any of the messages below? all the suggestions are there. setup is 100amp 8s capable esc, arc 75-36-1 motor, 15gram metal gear servos around 2.5kg torque, 4000-5000 4s lipos setup in pair as 8s pack. just no info on retract yet bud ds-46 should just given the final weight of the bird. you can go with 120 amp esc and 10s with a 3500-4000 Nah lipos and same motor or if you wanna be safe, take the 1500kv version. it Will be fast either way.
thank you to take time to answer me. yes i tryed to read older post. but i m little bit loose in the discussion on what to put in the plane. i have 0 experience in building a plane whit servo and motor separatly. is it a good servo for this plane: www.link the motor, i don t find anything with a search of arc 75-36-1 motor. can you give me a lien please. or i read that The Warhead 3545-1850KV from HK is = to the original one from proedf. but 67-36 mm will fit? and it look to be b.o. thank you again for your help. Steve
Sorry, my bad. Arc 36-75-1 for 8s. google it. Arc 36-65-1 for 6s. But 8s will be much nicer setup and draw less amps. Warhead 3545 might do the trick but it has been out of stock for a long time. Arc 36-65-1 will be faster anyway. But you can also go with Alloy DPS Series 90mm EDF unit with 1900kv from hobby king. I've ordered that one for my L-39 but is still to receive it. Too bad can't link in here :) For servos search HK for model: 929. you will see 4 choices. All will work, what ever is in stock. Can also use bms-385 or Turnigy 380MAX. Stick with SuperBrain 100 amp esc. It can handle 12s and seems to work very well. Make sure to have a good UBEC in your model. HK has plenty to choise.
thank you! i find the arc 36-65-1 for 125$ on internet. lot of place this item is sold out!!! this is a popular motor. i will take the bms385 servo. in the description it said that it will take 3 x High Torque MG Mini/Park Servo plus 2 regular servo. bms385 are the regular one? did i understand write about ubec? this is for give the good amperage and voltage to the receiver because the big battery? and anykind of them will do the job? about the motor, it s state that is for 5-6 cells, you are sure that it can hold 8 cells voltage? your help is very appreciate. thank you again! Steve
I think chuckshobbies had some in stock. i wich HK would carry this motor line. After reading some recent reviws for the bms-385, i'd stay away, mabe new batch is bad. Stick with 929mg or the other servors listed under recomended list above. For the ubec, search for: SBEC-40V or similar. Just make sure they can take 8s input and of a good quality.
steve and vasy1,
Both ARC motors are heavy, because of that the bare airframe also heavy, we must keep the plane as light as possible. Also consider to use additional Rx battery instead of ubec. In my opinion 7S system (4S 3S in serial) caan be the optimum solution for to save weight.
Ethem Ozgur, your comments are not with out merit, weight is always an issue. Maybe going with arc 36-65-1 with a 7s would be a sweet ride, or with lighter Warhead on 7s if it can take it. I think arc motor are heavy because they use good parts. They seem to work for many people and have proven themselves to be a good alternative to motors twice their price. I suppose using or not using a ubec is a matter of choice, both have their advantages, one with weight another with reliable power in case of main lipo trouble. I suggested proven setup with no trial and error that can be expensive in this hobby. :)
sure i will let you know how this f18 fly with your set up. and i will put my first flight on youtube. thank you again! i will probably begin whit 8s and if it is not enought upgrade for 9 or 10s can you tell me if the turnigy sentilon 100a hv5-12s besc is good for my set up? i don t find the one you suggest me on hobby king. thank you! Steve
by numbers it should work just fine, I have nite used it before, so.can't comment. I think in the new build they have fixed the issues thate esc had. the model i use: TSB100A is out of stock now.
Guys,
Good luck with your setups, I decided to go with 6S setup. I will go for "changesun 90mm 1900Kv combo" it is promising 1900watts at 80A with 6S 4000mah. And the best thing, it is very light setup.
Why don't you come to Rc groups under the thread "Electric Ducted Fan Jet Talk" there is one thread about this plane...
I just ordered that motor as well for my L-39, but it is only 1900 watts, arc will put out around 1000 watts more, as we say, there is no replacement for displacement :)
vasy1, I was planning to use Futaba S3305 (47gr) servos for the tailerons which this servo has torque 7.1kg at 4.8V and 8.9kg at 6.0V, but I need to order similar servo from HK. Which one do you recommends?
if you have the futaba, just use those.
i have limited experience with hk full size servos, so if it was my plane, id go with what hk has on their list of suggested equipment for this plane or maybe read up on rcgroups to see what others are going with.
i just came back from the rcgroups. i read it, it will help to build my plane. i paid 170$ for my motor shipped, so i will continue whit this set up and keep you informed. vasy, after reading comment on the sentilon esc, i think this is not a good idea to buy it. can you refer me on what i can buy? maybe on ebay? a question about the battery, when it is write for exemple 8s 5000 mah, (did i bought 2 battery 4s with 5000 mah each or i bougt 2 battery 4s with a total of 5000mah?) i guess 1000mah will be too much? is it complicated to balance the turbine? thank you!
steve, so under that thread as you saw they used HET 600-37-2 with 7S. Today I decided to go with changesun 1900kv on 6S. It will be light but maximum 1900 watts I will take. For esc go for castle ICE HV 80A or higher... For serial connection your batteries must be 2 x 4S and each one 5000mah. But be aware that 4S 5000mah batteries will be too heavy.
When went to buy from a HET dealer, they suggested a 700 series motor for better readability. I use 700-68-1680 and it is phenomenal performer, very similar to Arc 65-75-1. In my 90mm Jets I use 2 x 4000 Mah to get an 8s, or a single 5000 Mah in the 6s setups. Weight difference between the two is with in 50-80 grams, so 8s setup is superior if you are looking for raw power IMHO, a few grams make very little difference on a 3 kg plane. Go with 5.5mm bullets to eliminate the need for any adapters when wiring the pack. Stick with 100 amp ESC to make sure you are save. peak power should be just over 90 amps on 8s. If SuperBrain is not available, you can source it elsewhere at a slightly higher price and different brand. Castle Ice is a good choice, just expensive, but you can get it use on rcgroups perhaps.
i ordered the castel phoenix esc 100amp. and 2 turnigy 4000mah 4s nano 2 4000mah 3s nano did i need to buy the usb connector to program the esc? or i just put it in the plane and it will be ready to go? about the turbine, did i need to buy a balancer to balance it? i don t know anything about this. thank you!
USB Link will let you set warnings levels for your lipo, set timing as well as allow you to see the data from the flight like rpm, watts, voltage drop and other info. I find it usfull during the setup. You need a prop balancer to balance the blades. For smaller EDF a boat prop balancer works well but I've never had to balance 90mm yet, a good prop balancer will work. I'd read up on the net as balancing EDF is different compare to regular props. I see you bought 4s and 3s lipos, you wanna try all setups like 6s, 7s, 8s?
i will try 7s and 8s. and i have so many plane who work on 3s, it will be a good thing to have some more. i will ask for detail on how to balance it on the rcgroup (for the turbine) thank s again!
This is a good process. You can substitute the home made balancer he showed with a bought balancer but the processes remains the same. There is also bunch of related videos you can watch. I used this method once on my HK 70mm fan and it ran super smooth after.
just to keep you informed, i received my f18 (nice) and everything to mount it. all i don t have for the moment is time to built it. :) thank you again for your help!
i ordered a lander fan with his motor how suppose to give 10 pound of thrust on 10 cell finally. and i put the first 8cells arc set up in my starmax 90mm f-16 bought here. wow man! the sound is awesome! thank you again for your help and suggestions. here is my maiden flight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJaWphEcvFM i will let you know the result with the f18 10cells when it will be built and tryed.
Hi Vasy1! after all this time, i finally finish to mount my fiberglass f-18 tonight. the plane are very heavy, i hope it will be abble to take off, lol i put rc lander 90mm fan with hv 120 amp castle creation esc for run on 10s set up. suppose to give 10 pound of thrust. maiden tomorow if the weather is good. thank you again. Steve
Does the Alloy DPS-2 Series 90mm EDF unit with 1300kv Motor - 3400watt (10s) fit this airplane? It says the outer diameter is 94mm. Steve wrote that you did it? Can you tell me? Also what battery are you using for a 10s setup that fits?
for me i put a rc lander 90mm fan that fit great. i use nano tech battery, one 6s in the center of the fuselage and one 4s battery in the nose plug in series. i don t fly and test it yet (winter time here and don t have place to try it)
When i bought the edf i was looking for 90mm i don t know how was the mesurement of the outside. I bought it at fan jet usa (just google it)
I don t know what is the weight of my plane, it is very heavy with the battery. Wish that power wiLl compensate...
na its only 36" wing so very unlikly ,just throw it in the car and ready togo ,many jet this size are like this , best thing about this is that it is fiberglass ,hell of a lot better than foam. DONT HAVE TO WEARY ABOUT IT FALLING APART AT HIGH SPEED.
Another quality post by the 20c chasing cufflink. I've never been worried about the wings on a foam jet falling apart. It's called carbon fiber and it works fine.
For the powersystem I ordered the Warhead 3545-1850KV to test with the supplied Fan on 6s. (It is not that expensive) If I'm not satisfied with that setup I can always buy a Het-rc motor/fan combo for 150 euro's. I want to try the cheap option first. *) For the retracts I want to wait until I have the plane and can take measurements. I think I'll go with electronic retracts on this one instead of airretracts.
You are right about the e-retracts, better to see the plane first. Please let us know which one you are going to decide. Probably those "changesun" ones are not suitable for this plane, so DSR46 (EPF product) could be better option.
I am in doubt to go with HET or Lander 8S power setup, their prices almost same...
If I go for the 8s setup, I will take the HET typhoon 700-68 1680kv with HET fan. Is the intake lip of the lander removeable and won't the cable exit part clash with the supplied ducting? I still hope I can run it on 6s and supplied fan. It will be quite a weight reduction by using an outrunner. The HET motors are heavy. by using a 6s instead of a 8s I hope to carry a lot more mAh's for more flighttime.
Hi Jose, to be honest I also did not decided yet. But probably I will go with HET typhoon 700-68 (1680kv) with HET 9305-700 fan. By mistake I purchased Turnigy K-Force 100A ESC and I really don't know that it can handle HET setup.
For retracts probably EPF's DSR46 will be the best option.
Again, tks for your help, gentleman.I will try Highendrc. Now I need to figure out if the retracts DSR 46 are OK for this plane. Let's investigate. Have a nice wkd.
You are well come. I also trying to figure out those DSR46 retracts are ok or not. But as "Justinb81" said* it's better to see the plane first before ordering the retracts. Best wishes from Moscow...
I just ordered it without the power system and retracts. Who can give me some advice* RC Lander's 8S setup or HET typhoon 700-68 1680kv with 9305 fan? Also I am thinking to purchase DSR-46TL? Thanks in advance...
HET typhoon 700-68 1680kv with 9305 fan is a very good setup. I fly it on 8s with SuperBrain 100 Amp ESC from HobbyKing. It pulls just around 93 AMPS and WOT and can fly my F4 at 30 amps streight and level. Peak power is around 2800 watts, so will make this plane go.
1680kv is maxed on 8s. they also make 1440kv that is perfect for a 10s as well as you can try 1500. 1440 is also available in a longer can for more torque. i think that would be best for 10s. i think model is 700-80 or something. just one size up from 68. the motor is a bit heavier but it should balanced out by a bigger battery. also since it is a large can, it would handle heat better.
i also think that HET will supply more power compare to rclander as lander uses a much lower kv motor. also het system will be lighter over all. you can also get arc motor that is in the same power range as het but in a smaller can so you can use stock fan. i think arc is 35-1 or something.
prodesign edf jets or simply proedf. I can't copy the link name, but search them at the google and you will going to find their websites. All HK's recent composite jet products are from their production.
Ducted Fans again ? These fans are really not efficent at all maybe some ideas and suggestions for an alternative powerplant from you guys might help !
Ducted Fans rule. sure efficiency is not the best but they do make plane sound good and still fly well. Way cheaper then adding a gas turbine. Pushers are just a joke :)
Ducted Fan sure makes our flying experience better but I have a Nitro engine and a old ramtech ducted fan from the 80s given to me by my 85 yr old uncle I think that will do a NITRO DUCTED FAN !
Are you out of you mind ?
the weight to power ratio on the oldskool glow engines are far lower than the good brushless motors.
But Try it, since you got the stuff from your uncle. Could be fun to learn for you.
Thanks Vision for the motivation but could you do me a favor please.Reactivate my forum account. Apparently I'm on a shopping spree here so I would like to post buddy codes.
Received mine today, well packaged but the nose had some scratch, not a big deal, Fiberglassed fuse, balsa covered foam core wings, balsa horizontal stabilizers, plastic or fiberglassed covered foam core vertical stabilizers. Here are the weights of the plane;
Fuse 785 gr
EDF Cover 37 gr
Wing 82 gr x 2 = 164 gr
H. Stab 40 gr x 2 = 80 gr
V. Stab 86 gr x 2 = 172 gr
Duct 40 gr
Cockpit 28 gr
Struts & Push Rods 40 gr
Hardware 60 gr
Wing Spars 20 gr
Total : 1426 gr.
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i have received this package in great condition and i'm starting a build blog on the forums for this plane. you can follow the build of the plane. and share your thoughts also. link is loated in the comments section. this plane is PROEDF jet and its a great quility built plane. I will be installing the Warhead 3545-1850KV EDF Motor with a 100A ESC and 5,000 S6 batteries
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I byu this plane today ,i hope to the fast shipping :P
But f a 18 with this motor Warhead 3545-1850KV EDF ,it's ok for good speed flyng ? f 18 Flying Weight is 2200g and the thrust motor is 2650g ,i dont think sufficent for the plane this motor
Someone fly with motor ?
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A few days ago I received the F 18 and I started to construct ,then a notice one eleron is 4 mm shorter than the other! Is the first time I saw such a tragic mistake from HK.
Otherwise everything looks good! for the time........let s see.
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plane arrived poorly packed. fuselage had cracks that i can repair. canopy was cracked very badly. after several emails it became clear that hk would not replace and i was wasting my time. unable to find replacement anywhere. will try to make something. too bad such a nice looking plane has such poor support. last fragile thing i order from hk.
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