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So, you want a fast parkflyer!? All of the Funfighter range are truly ballistic, amazing fun, tough and brilliant value for money....but there is something special about the Rarebear. A firm favourite in the Hobbyking office, you will notice the lack of panel lining for a start, it's just built for speed! The Rarebear is of course a world famous Reno Racer and is a highly modified Bearcat, it is one of the fastest piston engined aircraft in the world. This Rarebear features a detailed canopy, pilot figure and the all important upgraded 4s Compatible ESC which means true 100 mph+ performance is possible with NO mod's & no extra outlay, just drop in a Turnigy 4s 850mAh~1000mAh pack and prepare to be impressed!
The combination of the light weight EPO airframe, a high power brushless motor and a simple aileron and elevator setup place these models amongst the most exhilarating park flyers to hit the market this year. Dont be left out of the fun!
This model comes plug and fly and only requires a few minutes of assembly time and flies like its on rails thanks to the one piece molding technique used in the construction. All you will require to have the Rarebear in the air is a 3~4S 850mAh 20C Lipoly battery and your own transmitter and receiver (Tx/Rx), see the attached video for some 3s & 4s flight footage and some info regarding the ESC Mod that we at Hobbyking insisted on.
Dear hobbyking, why should we buy from the local warehouse when the price is inflated for the product to such a large degree that i would be cheaper to buy internationally?
because you order wil be at your doorstep way quiker *) Thats the only reason i can think of, I'm useally not in such a hurry so even if I could order from the Netherlands warehouse i useally buy fron the international
very fast lol
we have the corsair on a 3s and that is very fast, the rearbear on a 4s is even faster.
there is a link of our corsair flying, the rearbear is faster !
hope that helps
The wire is 1,2 mm , and I didn´*t see a similar among the clevises offered in HK. By the way, is a good suggestion for them to pay attention to this : we need micro clevises !! good ones !. In your place, I´*d try with a small one and fill the hole with epoxy glue first.
Received mine yesterday.
Unfortunately one side of the wing came totally bended ( will try to put some picture here ).
Does anyone know a way to bend foam back to normal without breaking it ?
I heard that the use of hot wather is a good try ...
Thanks for any help.
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Depends, is the wing bended during transportation or does it look like it was a production mistake. If it is bended after production, dipping the wing in hot water will work or you could use a hair-dryer but don't keep it to close to the foam or it gets to hot. With the high temperature, the air in each foam-ball will expand and go back to its original shape. Downside is that to foam-balls on the surface of the plane are flattended down and will also expand giving the wing a goose-***p feel. While they are warm you can push them back a bit but it won't look very nice.
Thanks for the suggestion Boudewijn.
I made a little different try ... put the wing on the table and used some books to force it back to the original position. After a day it was all OK. Now , I will use a heat gun to adjust the part that still insists to be a little twisted : the aileron. If doesnn´*t work, we still have the hot water (made a test with another piece of EPO and really works as you said).
And the wing was bended during transportation. Fotunately the plane didn´*t broke like another bad experience I had months ago.
Now , lets assembly the plane and run to the field.
Good flies and thanks again.
One of my clevis broke when I wanted to change them to another hole in the eaileron control horn. Does HK sell a replacement that fit the Rarebear control rods??
Received my two Rarebears from China yesterday, transported all the way to Norway. As always no damages and fast shipping - thx!
The bear flies like a missile. A straight shooter. With 30% expo even a beginner like me have great control over the plane. I use 3-cell 1500ma, 40C.I launch it at 75% throttle.
I began flying with the edf jet Stinger 64, and upgraded the fan for more speed, now Stinger 64 feels like a sunday trip :) Enjoy the bear!
Scott , who is faster ? This Rare Bear or the T-28 ? Considering the motor and ESC are the same , the difference will be in the plane... Also, please compare "the winner" with the Moray 800 mm . Thanks for your help.
Great Plane but my first Bear disappeared into a Lantana
Jungle. have hobbyking fixed the original out-runner motor.
My original motor came new with square balls in the races
and grating sound effects.Listen to the early videos & you
can hear the model howling thru the air.
Comments welcomed from any later production owners.
Never really had many complaints about the motors after thousands sold, prop & spinner balancing is essential due to the RPM...especially on 4s, a little oil on the bearings every now and again is not a bad idea.
Thanks Scott, but my ears aint painted on , my original motor was a howler! due to poor bearings!
As to the supplied prop- I had to cut 8 mm off the end of one Blade to balance it. Dodgy mould?
Despite this it a a great little unit with almost
unbelievable top speed
Ed,
I thought mine had bad bearings too, but it was actually an undersize shaft. The shaft was about 0.1mm smaller than the inner race and as it rotated, the magnets were making it rattle around in the bearing - only a tiny movement, but it made a lot of noise - what I did was gave the shaft the smallest coating of CA glue, then when it was dry, pressed the shaft into place in the bearing - this brought the noise down a huge amount. Actually, I have had to do this with a few different HK motors - It's not really a problem, just the noise factor.
I find the flexible CA glue and kicker by far the best for EPO - it has some flex, so will not crack away from the foam when it is stressed. It's the CA with a pink lid on this site.
Hallo!!
Also ich habe dieses Modell gekauft gleich mit 4 s 850 mah der geht richtig gut, ungewohnt schnell, mit 30 - 40% Expo beherschbar. Einmal sogar Bruch, geklebt, und weiter gehts!!
Super Modell!!
whats a good prop size to use other than standard on 4s for a little more omph. (with upgraded ESC of co****!) im ordering mine tonight as a pressie for myself!
Just trashed my funfighter... I have another one but I now have spare 4s electrics from the one I crashed to drop into another airframe. Any suggestions for a very fast foamy airframe that this setup will drop into, maybe with a bit more float?
Can someone please describe the best way to hand launch this plane? I have tried twice so far, once at full throttle, and once at half throttle. Both ended quickly with no chance to make any corrections with the transmitter. Should I remove the prop and try to trim it flying as a glider?
Try three quarter throttle with 45 degrees of right bank and 45 degrees nose up. Hold the fuselage behind the canopy and from above. It's easy to get straight onto the elevator if you fly mode one and launch right handed. If not you'll have to modify using the same launch angles. You need to manually trim the left aileron down a bit to help fight the torque roll. Good luck... it's a fantastic buzz to fly well.
Another good way would be to hand launch it under arm,hold the model at the CoG or at the canopy and launch it straight out in front of you on around half to three quarter throttle,works every time for me and if your not sure how to do it by what we have said,try looking it up on youtube as there a loads of good examples on there how to launch this Fun fighter and others.
Dont do that stupid thing where you RUN, STOP and throw the thing OFF balanced. STAND STILL and throw it like a man. Unless you are a trained Javelin athlete you are wasting your time running. Makes me LOL each time I see someone RUN and throw their plain into the ground.
I finally got my rearbear today. After much anticipation I opened the box and instantly started assembly. I ask about which battery would be a good starter. I looked at the ones when i opened the compare tab thinking they were sizes that fit the plane. I ordered 2 turnigy nano-tech 850mah 3s 25-40c batteries thinking they would work.The connectors were the wrong size and way to small. Can somebody please tell me a battery that will fit the connector on the ESC. I want a 3cell 30 or 40c preferably. any help would be great.
Is the battery connector yellow or red? You can easily buy an adapter to fit on the battery. However, if you don't know which battery connectors are which, then you probably aren't ready for this thing going over 75 MPH!!!! Yikes!
If i'm reading this right will the esc that comes stock work with the 850mah 4s 45-90c battery? I'm new to flying but comfortable enough to upgrade to faster planes, just unsure on battery tech. I would appreciate any info.
Yes but a good idea to remove the heatshrink over the heatsink on the ESC....just one thing though, there is fast, then there is VERY fast and very small, my advise would be to try 3s first if you have not been flying that long.
I did some searching and found Master Airscrew propeller 5.5x4.5 (2pc). I presume this would be compatible with the Rare Bear. Yes the prop it comes with is delicate. Hope this helps :-)
I maidened the Rare bear yesterday. The flight lasted less than a second (***r hand launch). I must say I am amazed how tough the plane is, but I did break the prop and dislodged the enigine. Does anyone know what replacement prop I can use? Also, it appears as though the engine is mounted directly to the foam at the firewall. Is this correct or did I loose a peice of plywood or something? Any help in reattaching the engine or prop size is greatly appreciated!
You should have recieved at least one spare prop with the order and yes the motor is attached to the cowl so just re-attach where you see the glue. Cheers
I've just bought this raebear and wonder if it can be run on 1300ma lipo? would the cg change if i put this battery in it?, Also i've been reading that i should change esc, What esc should i get?
I've also got this plane and she is fast,i went with a 1000mah and the CoG is still fine so you should be ok,i just went and tried a PZ 1300mah battery for you and the CoG was still ok,i'm not saying use a PZ 1300mah battery though as the one i had the C rating isn't up to much,as far as the ESC in this one goes,some people have had good luck with it as long as they just use a 3s battery,i put a 30amp ESC in mine as i'm using 3s and 4s,so it's up to you what you decide,i hope this was of some he
I agree with startazz. Change the esc to a HK 30 amp 40 burst when you go 4s and don't worry fot the batteries. Aprox every weight around 125-135 grams of battery keeps the CG ok when you put it as far as possible in the front of the plane.
Gday mate.. I've put a few extra cooling slots and taken the heat shrink off the speed controller and have no issues. I also glide for a few seconds every minute or so to make sure it cools down. This is the most impressive little bullet you'll find. If your worried just spend a few extra dollars on a 55Amp Turnigy speed controller and enjoy!! Go for it! Cheers
Hi There. I have recently brought one of the new batch of "rare bear". I had to replace the esc straight away as it was faulty. On the other hand, a friend of mine has brought 4 new fun fighters and all his are good. Its a bit hit and miss still but better chances than previously of getting a good one. Im dont know why hobbu king just dont change them out for a 30 amp and up the price a couple of bucks. I highly recommend the rare bear out of all the fun fighters though. Mine has been clocked at
Mine died on first flight. :(
motor just stopped in air.
At home, ESC burned right away.
I know how to fly fast planes, short burst of full throttle and then cool it down for 20 secs at least while turning...
would be better to sell it without that crappy ESC, or at least remove from title: 3S and 4S capable... they burn even on 3S :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRzk3x9gQo8
It is not worth risking the entire aircraft by using a ***r speed controller (which also operates the radio control via the BEC). If it fails, you may be lucky and the BEC continues to work allowing you to land. On the other hand, you may be unlucky!! A 100mph aircraft out of control will not be much fun! I used a Turnigy 40Am K-Force ESC - brilliant ESC
There is an aluminium spinner which I purchased but I haven't put it on yet. It's the perfect size but might need drilling out if the motor shaft is a bit bigger.Will be stronger and look fantastis.Cheers
I put a prop adaptor with a 6/4 apc prop made it look like a hub type spinner, like a corsair, just found it real hard to get a well balanced small spinner. Man does it spin up smooth after that, what a weapon of a plane.
Hope that helps
Paul
Hey boys wonder if you can help me out?? I bought two of these missiles, a Rarebear and a BAREBEAR, but one of my motors have gone all jittery, like when you get the wires the wrong way around except this happened mid-flight!
Can anyone tell me a suitable replacement motor so I keep the same incredible performance and speed. Thanks in advance...
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mines arrived in a box that appeared to have been laying around the warehouse and somebody said, "this'ill work." don't think it will come in a customize box. careful of unpackaging!!!!
i tried to fit a 1000 mah, 4s, in the fuselage and it was not going to fit. i have to cut some foam out. the esc is rather large and will sit up front with the lipo.. an even tighter fit up there. the esc lipo wire connectors are skinny bullet type. prolly have to change that to fit the lipo connectors. horrific crash with broken parts may be a challenge to put the plane back together due to it's shape and design.
hope to report back after the maiden..
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Maiden the Rarebear today and it is a real hoot!
Haven't tried it on 4S yet but on 3S it was already the fastest thing at our field. I flew in variable winds of up to 12km/h without great difficulty.
Landed it very hard on 2 occasions and only broke the elevator clevis. The EPO foam on this plane is tough.
Can be flowned by advanced beginners with care. Controls are sensitive but not overwhelming so. Hand launches easily but needs a reasonably good thrown to get it airbourne. Control throws should be a little more than the factory recommended settings and use about 25pcnt expo on aileons and elevators.
Hand launches easily but needs a reasonably good thrown to get it airbourne.
Strongly recommend a full range receiver and some addtional stickers/markings. This little angel will great away from you very quickly and you will need full range radio and bright colours to keep in control.
I am running mine with * Stock motor, ESC and prop * Turnigy 3S 1500MAh Lipo * BlueArrow D05010MG servo for rudder * Spektrum AR500 Full Range Receiver
Put it together in 2 nights with following modifications; * Shortened wires on motor * Cut foam to let sit the ESC properly * Removed some heatshrink from ESC to add cooling * Removed some foam from battery compartment cover to acommodate bigger battery * Reinstalled the motor mount with some downward angle. (Facto
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Sorry ran out of space. Here is the rest of the review.
Put it together in 2 nights with following modifications; * Shortened wires on motor * Cut foam to let sit the ESC properly * Removed some heatshrink from ESC to add cooling * Removed some foam from battery compartment cover to acommodate bigger battery * Reinstalled the motor mount with some downward angle. (Factory glued the motor mount at wrong angle pointing upwards) * Added hinges and servo for the rudder
Great plane, great fun and great value.
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WOW - 3S straight out of the box....
Underhand launch 1/2 throttle took off like a scolded cat... a voice behind me said can you slow it down ? at 1/3 throttle still screamed past... what a machine... slowed down for a nice landing.
Had to adjust the trim down on the radio to get the speedie to intialise, once I programmed the throttle travel all was good.
Nice series of aircraft with great finish..
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First flight with 4 s 1000 Nano Tech and stock prop, I removed the "huge" spinner to get better cooling and prop balancing : very funny, fast and stable, nice little toy.
BUT... after 3 minutes flight, a strange noise : motor mount glue went loose, fortunately outrunners use 3 wires, to retain runaway motors... No damage, motor mount easily fixed with epoxy at home.
HK certifies it can fly with 4 S, it does, but for 3 minutes only in stock configuration!
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The Bear is the favourite office toy and comes out every time we go flying, easy to launch, amazing fun to fly on either 3s or 4s and suprisingly easy to see in the air, just brilliant!
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