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AXN Floater-Jet EPO with Motor (ARF) This model is one every pilot should own, performance is excellent and the quick, simple build will have you in the air in no time, when it comes to smiles for Dollars, the Floater-Jet can't be beaten, happy to be flown at speed or float around on minimal power, it's the perfect choice for beginners and experienced flyers.
Equiped with a high-kv motor, small propeller and a very smooth finish EPO foam surface (almost glossy) this plane can reach high speeds in a short amount of time, yet glide in gently to land thanks to it's forgiving stall and low wing loading.
An extremely easy plane to fly, ideal for beginners at half throttle and for experienced fliers, a noisy, fast eye opener at WOT!
hi I have this plane and it will not glide when thrown it nose dives. I have a 2200 battery in it do I need to really do a weight and balance to it or do I need more ele.
The CG is supposed to be at 101.5mm the plane should tend to be slightly nose heavy as nose heavy is much better than tail heavy.
I install the battery and move it around till it is on balance then move it till the nose is pointed slightly downward then mark the battery and the fuselage so you do not have to hunt for it each time, then I put velcro on the bottom of the battery and on the bottom of the fuselage to seat the battery into and use the mark to repeat the position, do this for each battery you intend to use just in case there is a difference in the weights of the batteries.
next make sure your elevator is not adjusted down, my brother and my AXN's tend to like the elevator with some up trimmed in to glide.
watch the video's from the link below as Xjet has build video's on this plane and they are very informative.
Due a search for this file(align_rce-bl15x_esc_manual.pdf) this is the instructions I used to program my ESC, it is a little cryptic as the English translation is not very well done.
I did not include the whole URL as I do not know if that is allowed on this forum.
The Batteries from hobbyking come with XT60 most of the time, look in the battery description and it should say what connector is on the battery.
The speed control with the PNF version is XT60.
I loooove this plane, flys like a rocket, or floats like a butterfly, thanks HK. Be sure and flex control surfaces thoroughly to make it easy on the servos,lubricate control rods too, happy flyin.
No need I use regular sized 2100Mah packs with a little trimming to enlarge the compartment slightly,my brother is using 1800Mah in his AXN.
As a matter of fact it is easier to balance the plane with the larger packs(2000 to 2200) to obtain a proper center of gravity.
This is the best trainer plane u can get, the stock ESC will handle a 3s 2200mah lipo with no problem. I did learn off of a 2s 1800, it works fine and gives the plane decent performance but its not the battery you want if you want to have some serious fun.
the zippy fits right in without any modification at all but the turnigy 3s 2200mah is a different story, the nose is plenty long, some foam just needs to be cut from the cheeks to make the turnigy battery fit.
with a calculator from online and some estimating of motor characteristics somewhere around 650 to 700 grams.
* 5000ft where I fly the stock motor and it stills flies just fine but does better with a 6x4 APC ep prop.
No ESC to wimpy this plane is plenty fast on 3s this plane will fly for 30 to 45 minutes on a 2200mah 3s get two battery and you can fly till your neck gets sore
thanks men, i just got it yesterday put it together and it fly GREAT!!!! i lost signal and crash it, nothing mayor happen, just broke a servo arm, replace it, currently on 1800mah 3s and got about 25 minutes of fly, i like how you can fly it a mid throttler it glides really nice too
Yes great plane for beginners. and relaxing to fly for experts. one thing you want to check is that the prop is facing the right direction and that is the 5x5 the is written on the prop need to face forward toward the nose. Here my plane in action at the desert in So Cal
HobbyKing raised the price of this plane by $8 for Father's day. Nice!
Here's the same plane for $61.57
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__8 359__AXN_Floater_Jet_w_Servo_Motor_ESC_EPO_PNF.html? strSearch=axn%20floa
I think I need a little help here..
Bind the plane in and all servos are working, but the motor will not and all I here is a constant beep.
I have the Spectrum 6i with the AR 400 Receiver
Try in this order, turn on radio and make sure your throttle trim is set correctly, make sure your throttle lever is in the full down position then plug in aircraft and see if that solves your problem.
*Lucas - Thanks very much for your input. I'll have both the 1800 and the 2200 to try. The tape advice seems like it's "right on" and I think I'll go with it. I almost bought a 9x but ended up ordering an Orange. (It seems they are both pretty well thought of for inexpensive transmitters.) It seems most people suggest going with the stock hinges so I'll give them a try. MY PLANE JUST ARRIVED A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO AND I'M PSYCHED! I think I'll order another for parts - just in case - LOL. Regards, -Bob-
Would anyone happen to know what servo arms will fit the stock PNF AXN servo's I have 4 or 5 different arms here and none of them fit.
If some one knows this I would ask that they please share LOL.
I Have One of These On the Way –* MY FIRST MODEL PLANE!! (although I am a full-scale pilot)
I’*d be grateful if some folks with experience with this plane could answer the following questions:
1) What control surface hinges should I use? Do you think it’*s better to cut at the hinge line using the existing hinges or to cut completely and buy good hinges. (Part # or Search Term Please.)
2)What gauge and type of wire should I order to replace the short motor wires? (Part # or Search Term Please.)
3)What to use for an extra wing spar? (Part # or Search Term Please.)
4)What type of tape to use to reinforce the wing surfaces? (Part # or Search Term Please.)
5)What type of Cloth backed tape or Glass Fiber tape to reinforce the connection of the wing halves? (Part # or Search Term Please.)
6)Adding LEDs: What to get? (Part # or Search Term Please.)
7)Also, is a 6 channel Orange enough to control the plane with stabilizer and LEDs –* and maybe a camera also?
8)It’*s been said that the nose breaks easily. Do people recommend gluing 3mm CF spars on the inside? If so, what length? And where exactly should they go? (Part # or Search Term Please.)
9)Glass fiber reinforcement has also been recommended for the bottom of the nose. If you agree, what type and how big a piece? (Part # or Search Term Please.)
10)About the CG location: Where do you think it should be for a beginner?
11)About 1300mAh vs 2200mAh battery: I am a beginner and I’*m aware that the plane may be easier to handle with the smaller battery but I would also enjoy long run times. What do people recommend?
12)About adding a camera to this plane: Which Amazon camera would you use? (Part # or Search Term Please.)
Or does HobbyKing have anything that’*s inexpensive and decent? (Part # or Search Term Please.)
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
wow, this is a long wishlist for a first plane. I would suggest for you to take your questions to the HK forum (link at top of page) and look for the topic 'Floater Jet' in the discussion forum, lotsa seasoned floater jet owners there. also check out 'rcreviews floater jet' on youtube, he does a good job with assembly, go for the 3 part video.
use an 1800 Mah battery and 3m extreme strapping tape to reinforce the leading edge and where the wing spar is located. keep everything else stock including the hinges. the nose will only break easily after you nose dive it a couple times. also put a layer of fiberglass tape on the bottom. i would also recommend the turnigy 9x.
Great choice for your first plane! just go easy on the throttle, as the speed can be a little intense for a newb. (50 mph, 70 down wind) RCgroups has a 100 page blog on this very popular plane. You should be able to find more info than you want.
Bryan thanks and very useful. I am told there is no RTF version. Only ARF so I must buy a radio rec. and the Turnigy 9x is on back order in the US warehouse. I will look up the other items you mention. I live in Argentina far awayt but have a US address.
You can go with either Turnigy 9x, or 9xr. if those are on backorder, you can always go with a Orange radio, I have 2 and they work awesome. If your on a budget, the hobbyking 6Ch 2.4Ghz radios are great. got one for my dad and it works perfect for line of sight flying at the local park. Good luck
I am ordering a AXN floater jet with servos, engine, props etc.
what else do I need to order (parts number) for a complete RTF package?
Does the us warehouse have a customer service number?
Thanks
Remy
Depends if your ordering the RTF or ARF versions. If your ordering the RTF version, it has all you need to get up in the air. ARF version will require a radio with receiver, as well as some Lipos and a Lipo charger. So not sure your budget, but for radios, depending on how far you want to fly, or if your going to do FPV, I would recommend Turnigy 9x or 9xr radio. For batteries I would go with Turnigy nano tech's and for this plan get the 2200mAh 3S 25C batteries. Will give you long flight times. Then you need a charger, so you could go with like the Accucel 6A charger which is nice and cheap and basic. Dont have time to list part numbers, but you can search for that stuff. BTW, I have this plane and its pretty sweet in the air!
Just got my Floater, looking sharp and can,t wait to fly.
One thing is that I would of wished that their instruction manual, would of went a little more detail on mounting the prop.
Any tips..
the stock set up is a prop saver, find an adapter ring that centers over the prop saver, insert it into the prop and add a small drop of CA, take the o-ring and loop it over one of the screws, set the prop in place and stretch the o-ring over the other screw. The writing on the prop needs to face forward. A better solution is to order PRODUCT ID: GON-D3T6 with your next order. Happy Flying
Has anyone who owns this plane, cutoff the excess control push-rod in the front fuselage in order to make more room for the battery and electronics?
Thanks
I did. Its the only way i could get a 3s 2200mah to fit and not get stabbed by the rods. Works fine and its still a tight fit but it wont be an issue unless you changed the holes in the horn or moved the servos forward.
I removed the pushrods and reinstalled them backwards. The z-bend is now at the servos and the adjustable connector is at the control surfaces. This still leaves about 1/2" (12mm) of excess rod sticking out. I will probably cut all but a 1/8" (3mm) off. this setup allows me to more surface deflection and the ability to change it in the future. It would be a good idea to remove some of the excess so they do not puncture the battery on a bad landing, or a crash.
On my servo arms there was one hole left out on the end of the arm. They drilled the second hole for the pushrod conectors. The hole was the right size for the 1mm pushrods. Make sure you use some loctite on the connectors so they do not vibrate loose in flight. To reinsert the pushrods from the opposite direction I had to push down on the pushrod tubes through the cooling port under the motor. I used the wing spar to do that. The end of that tube is a pretty small hole to hit so be patient!
The c rating on a battery is how fast it can discharge. This means that you can use any battery that has a c rating greater than or equal to the c rating required by the motor and esc.
in this planes manual it says battery 1300-1500mah 3s to be used if you get this plane and get a larger one not that cog/center of gravity is changed significantly and needs counter weighted even if using the suggested battery of manual cog is very important ok thats all for now
Thanks everyone for the help. Everything works correctly now. Now I just have to keep it in the air more than 10 seconds. All the videos on flying R/C make it look so easy! Thanks again!
Get a cheap rc simulator. They sell them on here and other online retailers for around $25 with a controller that looks like a real transmitter. Practicing with this will help you learn faster and save you hundreds of dollars in repairs.
I bought the "Real Flight Basic" setup for $99 at a hobby store. It really will help you! you can shoot landings time after time until you get them right. I wish I had bought a simulator years ago when I was starting out! search for the "rcmodelreviews" video on launching your AXN it helps. I find I need full up elevator for about the first 20 to 30 feet after launch, that is with 60% throttle. do not launch at full throttle or you are headed for the ground. Once you can let off the elevator then you can throttle up for a good climb rate. The plane will nose dive everytime you throttle it to full power.
Make sure your Transmitter is turned on BEFORE you plug the battery into your plane and your throttle stick is down. If you still have the beeping (this is telling you what your brake setting is, 1 beep, three times means the brake is off) You may need to reverse your throttle channel at your radio! search for "align_rce-bl15x_esc_manual" this explains the beeps and how to change the settings for your ESC. Also there is a better manual for the floater jet. search for "BMI_Arrow_manual_version_B"
Problems with my AXN. I ordered the PNF AXN and went to assemble it today and plugged in the ESC to the RX turned on the power and the motor wont spin. I keep getting these beeps it will beep 3 times first then start beeping up to six beeps and then makes this assending and decending sound. I dont know if that means my motor or ESC is bad or what the hell it means. Im new to all this stuff and dont know what i need to fix it.
well i got the motor to spin finally but now when i start the throttle up it starts out very slowly then gradually speeds up till it tops out. Is this normal for this motor or is somtehing wrong.
Sounds like your esc needs to be reset / reprogrammed. I'm guessing that when you originally plugged in the battery, your throttle was not all the way down. This is usually the way we program our esc's. Each different tone represents a different menu option (brake on, low voltage cutoff, timing, etc). Most likely, you have accidentally changed one or more of the settings..and they will need to be reset.
There is an esc manual in the files tab. It's kind of confusing, so read through it several times before doing anything. It's better if you have someone with you who has programmed an esc before, but not absolutely necessary.
Good luck!
Prop Direction? Being that the motor is facing backwards, I would think that the prop should be mounted backwards on the motor so it is rotating the way it looks like it was intended to go. Unfortunately, this put the prop centering ring towards the rear of the plane, so it can simply fall out. Are you supposed to mount the prop on the motor just as you would on a forward facing motor? Wouldn't that mess with the props efficiency
The prop should face forwards as if it was on the front of the plane,the motor then turns clockwise looking from the rear of the plane,it will then work perfectly.
If you're using the prop saver supplied with the plane, put a drop of CA on the centering ring to keep it in place, otherwise it will fall out. A better solution is to order a prop adapter, PRODUCT ID: GON-D3T6 should do the trick.
you shouldn't have to upgrade the stock 25 amp ESC... I used a 4S 2200 mAh. After 45 min in the air I only used about 50% of the capacity. With 3S 2200 mAh 40 min at through 75% of the capacity.
You can certainly upgrade the lipo for more flight time. Be sure to re-balance the plane after you install the new battery. The plane should balance with your fingers placed right under the wing support rods.
There is no need to upgrade the ESC. It performs well under maximum capacity considering the motor it is driving.
I have to say this is one of my best airplanes. It can fly very fast, very long, and is difficult to tip stall. It also glides forever. I mixed in flaperons for slowing it down for landing. I fly with a 2200mah and it balances perfectly. I was even to land without an elevator (my fault, I didn't secure a servo arm properly) I also use this model for FPV.
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Great value. I've been flying this plane more than any other plane I own. Easy to carry, easy to fly, goes pretty fast at full power. Extremely economical. Recommend 2.2 3 cell. Reinforce wings if you are going to pull lot of G in dives or snaps. I have 2 spars in the wings. Glides well.Couldn't use it for FPV but I see others did. Anyway, great buy!
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Out of the box new when opened the Motor does not work. I am not sure if it's the ESC or Motor but checked the settings and everything were all OK. The motor will not run, when the throttle is increased I am getting only maybe 3 turns in the motor then stopped. I've read reviews on this particular model and it seems there's a quality issue. To the buyers out there, I suggest buying just the basic airplane without the electronics and buy the electronics including the motor separately. Now I have to spend so much cost in shipping the entire box back to Hobby King.
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Just received plane 2 days after ordered it! All parts there, high quality, included a 25 amp ESC & motor has awesome power for this 400 g plane! See many youtube videos of it on xjet channel. Elevator & rudder control rods are enclosed in plastic sleeves to prevent bending! See build videos on rcmodelreviews channel.
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What a hoot ! novice to intermediate level
Upon arrival assembly was easy. Initially control surfaces did not move freely. Unhook the servos linkage and carefully flex the control surfaces to free them up make sure the moved freely through the range of motion.
Just gave away my slightly broken balsa glider as this thing is nearly a glider. If you use as a glider, limit the elevator movement and you can get some amazing hang time.
Very resilient. I've nosed it in several times and walked away with little more than a 1 minute glue gun repair. If you get in trouble just pull the throttle back. I use a cloth tape to hold the wings wings so every thing has a little give upon impact. Re tape as needed. Not like I'm seeking impact, but things happen. Yes, you eventually have to try some aero or a high speed low level pass or loose perspective in the distance.
Especially fun off of the snow. Made dozens of take offs and landings from a variety of snow conditions and even some dried grass areas. Dual rate for a little more elevator upon takeoff vs flight may help.
Hand launching suggest a 15-20 degree upward angle from a hand under the CG ( basically under the wing ).
Also switching from 5X5 prop to 6X4 makes it launch better and it climbs better. And can fly really fast if you get on the throttle. After you get in the air remember to throttle down if you are a
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