Hobbyking E-Fair Balsa Glider 1540mm (ARF)

 Genetics101 12 points

Hey dildo boy! I've been looking at some of your commentary & I'm sitting here saying to myself this world is full of $hit for brains trolls & I think you've won first prize!! You are quite the idiot & clearly a loser. Get a life & know you'll never get one over on me little boy..

 eastcoast78 75 points

you have to much time on your hands...I like how you dildo as a reference...get laid much little boy?

 sfactor1 944 points

where are the hobbyking mods? $hit fuk $hit fuk lololol

 eastcoast78 75 points

yeah tell me about it, this troll is crazy...he has no life...But he likes this...HMDLB lol watch and see how long it takes him to reply...*0) But form alot of his trolling with others, here id figured id see for myslef lol

 Jacobus Daniel Vrey Jr. 32 points

I AM RUNNING A Turnigy 2650mAh 3S 20C Lipo Pack ON MINE WITH A Turnigy D2822/17 Brushless Outrunner 1100kvIN IT .VERY NICE BUT HAD TO CUT A BIT TO FIT MOTOR

 germansteve 59 points

They go no top of the wing where the bolts hold the wing in place, just to strengthen things up. You can just make them out on the large picture on the top of the box. Stephen

 Daz393 20 points

Thank you Steve, I couldn't see them in the picture.

 Painless Potter 21 points

I glued my wings together so 2! red pieces didn´*t make sense for me . I made a one-piece gfk-/grp sheet that gives extra durability holding wings and screws together . Look at my uploaded picure .

 Daz393 20 points

That's not a bad idea PP, thanks

 Daz393 20 points

Steve, what do you need to know? The manual is next to useless to be truthful. The only important thing is CofG is at 55mm from the leading edge at fuz. Everything else is straightforward. The horizontal stab glues to the fuz but make sure that you remove the area of covering so that you have wood on wood joint. Same with vertical stab (fin). Triangulate your measurements when setting stab (as glue dries) to nose of glider, same for wings. Don't measure stab tip to wing tip in case wings are out, then so will be your stab. or vice versa. The hinges are standard CA hinges, just slot with scalpel, insert hinge and wick thin CA to set. Push rod tubes are too small diameter for rods, and rods are very hard to slide, but you cannot remove tubes without cutting open fuz, so best get thinner rods otherwise this is likely to cause servo bind and overheat your ESC. 28mm outrunners DO fit but you do need to cut away the inside as it is around 26mm inside. Anything else? Daz393

 germansteve 59 points

THATS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED. Thanks so much Daz393. Pity I can only give you one credit for your time spent with your reply.

 Daz393 20 points

You are welcome!

 adriano basso 5 points

nã*o precisa de manual é* muito fá*cil montar.

 XMotor 13 points

look www.link

 XMotor 13 points

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 Daz393 20 points

See my above reply to GermanSteve. Daz393

 Painless Potter 21 points

Thankyou for you help !

 Gary 2974 points

The dowels are glued into the leading edge of the wing and must line up with the holes in the front former.Slot the wing together and place it in position then mark the hole centres on the wing.Drill into the leading edge and glue the dowels into place.

 ANK3RS 3 points

Thanks Gary i see exactly what you mean !!! cheers

 Bellakelpie 63 points

JIT means "Just In Time." Not sure how HK work with their suppliers, but it may mean that they order each kit direct from the model manufacturer, everytime an order is placed, rather than keep stocks of model kits on a shelf in a warehouse.

 FlyRcFly 1744 points

Well if you answer a few questions and help a few modellers you can get a good discount to help.

 FlyRcFly 1744 points

Yes she is a real beauty.

 Allan 3 points

Hi al here just bought E-fair and put a turnigy d2826 2200kv on it with a 2200 mha battery and it glides so nice , I can stay up for 20 minutes, im not a great flyer but this plane is very controllable you will love it

 KaosKane 1428 points

you can sand the shaft a bit and wrap cooking alfoil carefuly around the mshaft then use the 3.2mm collet and way tighten it :} HTH

 XMotor 13 points

I use Folding Propeller Set - 8 x 4.5 ID: OR025-02403A
looks excellent

 William 6 points

The smaller black plastic folding props on offer by HK are to suit 3.2mm diameter shafts. What KaosKane said works but an easier way to apply the aluminium foil is wrap so masking tape on the shaft and then remove it.This will leave a coat of sticky adhesive on the shaft.Then wind your strip of aluminium foil and wipe a bit of sticky adhesive at the end the al foil to stop it unwinding.If you wind it under tension it will be quite tight and wont crinkle. Make you strip just a bit longer than your shaft so you can bend it over the end of the shaft. Al foil is about 0.02mm thick. So if 3.2mm hole use 3.18mm diameter. When sliding on folding prop screw it on so that it wont unroll the al foil. Take up the slack in the two grub screws and then screw them up firmly.

 KaosKane 1428 points

Thanks for the extra steps they will work better and look better too :}

 boingk 257 points

If mounting outside the model I would fit a Hextronik 20g 2300kv outrunner with GWS 5x4.3 or 6x3 prop. It fits without problem. Inside mounting you will need a 26mm motor such as the Turnigy 2622 series. Hope that helps.

 XMotor 13 points

Aerodrive SK3 - 2826-1240kv and Folding Propeller Set - 8 x 4.5 inch

 boingk 257 points

550g flying weight for 361.2in^2 wing area will give a wing loading of 7.75 ounces per square foot - this is fine for a glider and will give good soaring performance. Even better, you will not be grounded by moderate winds as very light gliders often are. I'll write a review once I fly mine, hope that helps.

 J in TX 2 points

boingk - Could you please post the actual weight of your e-fair when you receive it? I've noticed HK often lists "flying weight" for other ARFs. So I assume the 545g "weight" listed here is bare kit only. FWIW my personal benchmark for a nice thermalling 2M electric sailplane is under 700g AUW.

 JFrancis 30 points

Have mine operating on 20A ESC and 1400 2S lipo. glide ratio is not fantastic but sink rate is very low due to low speed flying characteristics so it can stay up for a good while. It requires very little strength of lift to climb but you will loose lots of height gliding between thermals, especially on a day with winds over 5-6 knots.

 SilverFisk 29 points

Two screws and the wing comes off. Simple as that! But you can't split the wing in two (at least if you follow the building instructions, I'm sure you could do something on your own to make them "splittable").

 madjeff 60 points

thanks mate might just get one.

 unleaded 163 points

madjeff it looks like the wings come in two pieces that you epoxy together i have a 2meter glider that is a one piece wing and i can transport it in a small car ok it just sits beside the top of front seat ok to make it two piece you need to insert heacey duty joiner spar in either ply or carbon fiber but looks like a good bit of kit and cheap i paid $100 just for a balsa kit that i had to glue and then buy covering but i like building balsa stuff

 JFrancis 30 points

I have set mine up with the 2 included dowells at the front (one in each wing) and glued the included alloy spar allong with another piece of carbon rod (that i provided my self) at the back of the wing into the left wing. Now the wings lock their angles of attack together and are held together by the dowels and screws to stop from sliding apart. now the whole thing comes apart very easilly for transport

 MosyCott 253 points

I joined my wings using the dowels provided, but instead of gluing the wings together, I used electrical tape (white to match colour) and then just mount as per plane. Several flights and one crash/re-build (ESC fault) and the wings have never been a problem. You can remove the tape and separate the wings for transport if needed. Works good for me.... :-)

 Youssef 191 points

haha yes it is a good glider

 unleaded 163 points

kanga you can still get the brolga in Ausit was recently had a review in aeromodler mag in aus

 kanga 1011 points

When Hk sell this on the Aus site I will snavel one or even maybe a few ... beats building and covering

 unleaded 163 points

kanga i paied $100.0 aus just for a kit of a 2 meter sig riser then had to add covering so even with the shipping cost from HK it would be still a good buy i may even get one as a spare

 rabdooley 24 points

I am seriously considering buying this glider. I hope someone can answer a couple of questions. 1) Is the advertised weight of 545g just the airframe, or is this what it should weigh after everything is installed? 2)What size spinner/hub should be used? I am thinking the spinner should be the same diameter as the nose of the glider, with the hubs slightly outside of this. So basically, what is the diameter of the nose? Thanks for any help on this!

 kanga 1011 points

Srry I dont actually have one of these as yet but, usually the weight shown is the shipping weight , as in the kit with its box etc .

 unleaded 163 points

robert the 545 g ismost likly the weight of the airframe shipping weight is 1768g my thermal glider of 2 meter span weighs 635gg with flight battery servos and rx it is a tow line launch

 boingk 257 points

Looks as though a 1 or 1.25 inch spinner would do the trick. Will repost as soon as I get mine.

 SilverFisk 29 points

I just got mine and a 35mm spinner will do the trick...
/S

 boingk 257 points

Got mine, a 35mm or 1.5 inch spinner fits nicely. Hope that helps.

 rafgol 213 points

Yesyesyes, German warehouse, quick, schnellllll bitte, www.link

 Youssef 191 points

I agree with you

 Robbie 1088 points

yes lovely, I miss the Great Planes Spirit (out of production), I hope they'll make this e-fair also in the 2 meters class.

 Airport68 8 points

I agree with Robbie!

 boingk 257 points

You could make it 2m class by adding a centre section to the wing before you assemble it.

 3D 4 Life 7 points

That would be great! Lets hope they make more duration gliders!

 unleaded 163 points

boingk its all ready assembled "The E-Fair glider comes in almost ready to fly form, which means you will need to add your own brushless motor/ESC, servos and radio system. Please see related items below.
but you could add a center section but fues might also be a bit short may be

 Tomas 36 points

I have something similar and use Turnigy 2217 16turn 1050kv 23A Outrunner www.link 9x5 folding prop and Rhino 3s1750 (could be lighter but glider was originaly designed for brushed motor). Jus few seconds of vertical climb and then long long glide ... This baby has very short nose, it surely requires a lot of weight in forward. Maybe I would use small 1000/1300 battery and some lead to keep weight as low as possible.

 Robbie 1088 points

yup short nose... a 1300 would be more than enough with longer nose...

 fernanda 7 points

what would be appropriate for the engine helice indicated (Turnigy Aerodrive SK3 - 2826-1240kv Outrunner Brushless Motor) Thank you.

 BIRGER 130 points

For the recommended motor you probably want to use a 9X5 folding prop, probably OR025-02504A will be fine.

 lucas2696 45 points

If you're somewhat competent, I'd agree. But for a total noob, no way. Balsa is way too delicate and difficult to repair for a beginner. Foam FTW!

 Ujjwaana 162 points

Nice !! I have been looking for a 'Guppy Hotliner' kind of pure balsa glider from HK. This one just lacks the Ailerons!!! I would go for 'KIT' version, as the finish does not look too good. I bet many flyer can do better job.But that too fair keeping the price in mind.

 Ujjwaana 162 points

fernanda, Though 2826 /1240KV sounds good, I would suggest an in-runner motor instead. I tried an outrunner in the Glass Fiber 'Speedy Glider' and had a had time putting things www.link

 fernanda 7 points

Thank Birger. I'm starting to get kind of undecided on gliders! A person must have a lot of experience should be the Lucas .... or at least indicated that a propeller!

 Robbie 1088 points

learning means also learn to land the plane safely... balsa airplanes give the right motivation to be better pilots

 Reggie 11 points

Here is a video of me flying my E-Fair in Charleston, Sc. This is a great beginner plane up to advanced pilots. 7X4 folding props works the best too.

 Reggie 11 points

Here is another from Mount Rodgers, VA (White Top. www.link

 sfactor1 944 points

robbe - balsa airplanes give the right motivation to be better pilots!?! do u drive with no seatbelt and a knife mounted to the steering wheel to "make u a better driver." anybody that doesnt recommend a foam plane for a beginner is totally behind the times...3ch balsa planes may have been excellent trainers a few decades ago, but with modern advances in foam technology, THERE IS NO REASON TO LEARN TO FLY ON A BALSA PLANE....GET A BALSA PLANE AFTER U LEARN TO FLY ON A FOAMIE.......NO EXCEPTIONS (THAT MEANS U TOO MR SIMULATOR)!!!!!!

 sfactor1 944 points

to all the newbies.....get this plane and u will have to do hours and hours of repair AFTER YOUR FIRST DAY of flying...if u can call it a day since u will only fly for a couple min before u crash it...after the first day, many many would be pilots will never fly again due to the repairs needed....who wants to fly for 2min and then do 2hrs of repairs?....NEW PILOTS NEED TO GET A BIXLER

 Robbie 1088 points

sfactor1 there is no need to SCREAM when someone has a different opinion that your, but you're free to do it if that makes you feel better, no problem for me. What you said is incorrect, I learnt with a very similar glider about 20 years ago, it's still there in good conditions in my garage, not a repair, maybe I'm the only one in the world, maybe you know very bad beginners, but don't consider your point of you as absolute. I agree foam is easy and fast to repair, in some case balsa is also easy to repair, in some other is not, but for many modelers, building and repair is a fun component of the hobby. Both airplanes are good, polyhedral wings are easier for beginners, no doubts here, E-Fair has . polyhedral wings. Learning to fly is something people should do with an experienced models, crash doesn't happen in those conditions, once you learn't the basic the problem is gone and you have the airplane you like the most.

 Robbie 1088 points

Reginald, what lipo do you use ? do you also use ballast to have a correct cg with the lipo you use? thanks

 Robbie 1088 points

one suggestion that i can share with beginners, don't buy this airplane if you don't have a nice short grass field where you can land.

 Reggie 11 points

Robbie, I was using a 1300mah 7.4v in the vid's. I had to add a little bit of lead to balance out. Once balanced this is a great plane to fly. I have now upgraded to 3s and a larger ESC. It will almost fly straight vertical.

 Robbie 1088 points

Thanks Reggie, good to know that, little bit of lead, like 20-30 grams .. ?

 fernanda 7 points

Hello I'm looking to buy this glider, but the shipping to Brazil is in 80dó*lares. over the glider and the products are recommended for almost $ 80. in total will give $ 160 then I'm in doubt about buying this same aircraft or researching more and see another a little more expensive but more complete ... except that the weight has to be the same as the freight q is expensive.

 Robbie 1088 points

Fernanda, if you are looking for alternatives, I suggest you to ask in rc forums like rcgroups where there are many more people reading.

 glydr 94 points

I'm with Robbie - I taught myself to fly RC on a glider much like this. Speed 400 can brushed motor, 7cell nicads and servos that cost me $40 each! Wonderful! One of the said servos burnt out mid-flight after countless hours of flying, so the fuselage is no longer. But I do have the wing kicking about somewhere....

BTW - bring to the Aussie warehouse!

 clive45 67 points

For a beginner get the "Cloud" they fly great and are almost indestructible. Bit of glue or packing tape and your in the air again also it takes all the worry of flying and crashing. It also handles the wind very well and has long flight time on 1800ma battery.

 Stewart 1 points

I second the getting a AXN Floater jet (or also goes by the Cloud Fly name). I fly mine on a 2200mah 3S. It glides really well and has plenty of power to fly fast or get out of trouble. It's full 4 channel too.

 Sawdust 1605 points

I'll third that. The floater are great little planes for a beginner and a lot of fun even afterwards. I'll also agree with clive45 about 1800mah giving plenty of flight time and their ability to handle wind and take a few knocks .
I do like this E-Fair glider and think it would be good and easy to fly for a beginner but it wont take the banging around the axn will and a beginner is going to bang it around a bit for sure.

 michael 4 points

Yap, I agree with the guys comments.. this E-Fair plane is very much alike w/ Gentle Lady, I have since the first months of my flying rc's and until today I fly this masterpiece with full excitement... I flew all sorts of crafts simple wings to complicated Heli's but at the end of the day becomes stressful.. so I get back to my motor powered Gentle Lady and give my self a relaxing flight time... Hope Hobby King would bring us more models like this one.. tnx HK

 richardglissan 60 points

Balsa is an ideal medium flexible and light . The killer in most model crashes is kinetic energy built light they won't break. Been doing this since age thirteen now 67. My son is presently dsing in tassy.

 flatspin10 11 points

I love the airframe weight of 0 grams, it must fly for a long time!

 clive45 67 points

Runs on Helium batterys

 doh2doh 50 points

Great plane. They handle wind realy well but you can buy them in the UK for £*35. Thats a lot less than shipping from Hong Kong.

 Robbie 1088 points

what is the original name of this glider in UK ?

 Propepperell 5 points

What about using an inrunner her for better look? Anyone tried? Suggestions?
Peter

 Reggie 11 points

I use a inrunner in mine. I will have to check witch one, I bought here from HK.

 doh2doh 50 points

Robbie I have seen it for sale as E-Fair and another name that I can't remember at moment. My mate has had one for over a year. Last year at the model shows there were shops selling them for £*35. They have been around for quite a long time and several UK stores use to stock them.

 doh2doh 50 points

Robot birds in UK currently have them for sale for £*40

 Robbie 1088 points

thanks

 __ulfb 5 points

A must-have for the German Warehouse!

 beezlebub 226 points

fernanda, motors are for people with no arms.

 clive45 67 points

You know your right maybe someone with one or no arms would like to fly. Think before you speak or select brain before engaging mouth.

 beezlebub 226 points

i know, but i was saying that motors are cheating unless you have no arms (in which case it is ok to use a motor)

 Flipsighed 16 points

Hey Hobbyking how about a 3 meter version or even an un-built 3 meter kit. :)

 rabdooley 24 points

I am seriously considering buying this glider. I hope someone can answer a couple of questions. 1) Is the advertised weight of 545g just the airframe, or is this what it should weigh after everything is installed? 2)What size spinner/hub should be used? I am thinking the spinner should be the same diameter as the nose of the glider, with the hubs slightly outside of this. So basically, what is the diameter of the nose? Thanks for any help on this!

 Glauco 6 points

Please answer me, what motor and battery ideal for this model?

 rabdooley 24 points

I am going to try this motor: www.link The performance data in the description is wrong. It is for the 3632 motor. At the end of the discussion pages, there is this data for this motor:Voltage: 2-3S max current:18 A Esc:20 A prop.: 2S-9x5/8x5,3S-7x3/6x4 Pull: 440g for 550g glider, 500g acro, 390g 3D

 antonios 21 points

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