The almost ready to fly Phoenix 1600 EPO / Composite Glider allows the user to select components to suit there own flying style. The wings and tail are made from tough EPO foam. However, the fuselage is made from a really strong blow moulded nylon skin with plywood formers, making it almost indestructible. Usually reserved for baby toys*. The virtually indestructible fuselage is smooth and rigid yet still light enough for the glider to perform. Both the main wing and tail are screwed into place and the two wing halves have a carbon fiber rod for added strength.
*Having a blow moulded fuselage on a glider is an excellent solution however it is not popular amongst manufacturers due to its high cost, effectively doubling moulding costs.
Wingspan: 1600mm (63 inch)
Length: 1045mm (41 inch)
Flying Weight: 950g
Battery required: 1300~1800mAh 3S
Motor: Brushless 2815/1050Kv
LiPoly 1300~1800mAh 3S
2815/1050Kv Brushless Motor
30A Speed controller
4 x 9g Micro Servos
I used a Turnigy Aerodrive SK3 - 2836-1040kv, x5 Corona 929MG Metal Gear Servos x1 Corona CS238MG Metal Gear Servo, Plush 40A ESC and a Turnigy 2200Mah 30C battery. Instead of the supplied spinner I used a 44mm alloy one with the kit folding prop blades. I put a temperature sensor against the front of the motor where the wires exit the front. I replaced the supplied plastic motor mount with an alloy one. I used the supplied pushrods and clevices backed up with some fuel tube. C/G set on moulded marks on wings. I removed the weight that was fitted under the battery tray.
Maiden flight today could not have been any better. Straight as an arrow with no trims needed. Flaps were helpful for landing. It seemed to glide a long way without them. Very pleased with the performance considering mine came out a little overweight :-)Watch when using supplied motor screws, in kit. Screws are very long. Watch so they don't screw into wires of motor. ( Inside motor) As mentioned by other's! Instructions book is absolute worthless. Not really any good information. Pictures are very small and subject far away. Cannot really see any important detail. No info. of installing motor, which is not too hard figuring out. Also as mentioned. No information on what screws go where in wing. (Also not really hard figuring out.) Just instruction book should be pointing out the intended hardware. 1 servo is intended to be larger than the other. Both servos sitting in position. The smaller one is so very close to the structure above it. The larger servo is much too high. So when I mounted my servo's. I remove the servo tray and mounted up through the bottom. All clears great now! In all, things look OK for the price. The Phoenix 1600 looks much smaller than I imagined. I think I wished I had went with the Phoenix 2000.Received mine a week ago as a kit version.
The assembly manual is useless. Like really. It might be good for PNF version but its completely useless for kit version. Like if u say something like attach the part with a srews. and there are 10 different screws in the package, from which 3 different is suitable, then its really useless. But yet. if you are not idiot somehow you will assembly it. a small chance you will assembly it exactly like it is supposed to be but you will.
I really like the build quality for the money. everything fits where it supposed to be. But this is my second prop spinner from hobbyking, and i must say both of them where really horrible. they are so out of ballance you are quite sure they are not ment for spinning. Every other part is built really nice. Come on Hobbyking improve your spinner quality!
Fly characteristics: I just had my first flight. It flies great. It is really easy to control and its majestic in the air.
So only two things i dont like about this product are: assembly manual and prop spinner.
I would definitely recomend this product.I'm happy with this kit. It looks nice, it flies well, the accessory pack is good and it is well made. The fifth star is deducted because of: Instruction manual should have info on which screws goes where. The wooden servo tray is too high so most servos obstruct the side of the fuse. I cut the plastic but the good solution would be to lower the whole tray. The hinges are so-so and a little tape is all that you need but that would be an instruction thing too. Mine uses a Turnigy SK3 2830 -1020kV and it fits right in the motor mount and with original prop after reversing shaft and gives ample power and 18.5A static for a solid climb. Servos 4x HXT900 (no flap) and a 2200 3S gives the CG right with the supplied front weight removed. I have my CG a little bit rearward compared to recommended. Weight 1065g ready to fly. The build took a few evenings, I took my time and did ESC soldering etc. The problems are really minor and easily solved to be honest and it would be a sure five-star rating with only small improvements. Good kit!I have used this strictly for slope soaring. Kit; really impressed inclusion of y leads, servo extension leads, clevises, spare bolts, spinner, glider nose, everything - amazing. goes together hassle free. I have found the hinge foam a bit thin though - my rudder fell off quite easily, though this material responds well to proper hinging - problem solved. I have also added a little carbon to those delicate wing tips I bent one quite easily -perhaps the 'epo' foam here is not 'premium'?? fuz - brilliant (if a little crude..) also impressed with carbon strengthened control surfaces, and chunky long wing joiner. The wing attachment while seeming a bit involved is fine in practice, and much easier than some other popular and more expensive brands. Due to the fuz material this is not a lightweight, it needs about 6oz up front including the battery - though will almost match my Z*** flying wing for response to lift. After experimenting I think I have ended up just slightly rearward of the suggested C of G.. Great performer though - retains a lot of energy and will quite easily whistle around and perform tight and accurate manoeuvres for this type of model. Flaps are very effective. I have certainly seen it outperform a similar glider that cost 3 times the price..... A no-brainier for any slope nut!You should make the front stronger by aluminium and make the wings stronger with CF.
Best with SK3 2836 1500One of the best airplane I have ever bought. It costs less than the Bixler and it is way better. It comes with more than everything you need, folding prop and spinner, spinner for motorless flight, servo horn with screws, spars everywhere, plastic pieces to hold it together perfectly, wires, ecc... it's really amazing and it flies so good. When you want to land it seems that it never comes down. Bixler is only better for FPV.Great bit of kit, very cheap too. Being used as my FPV glider. It can house 2 x 3s lipo's (1 for plane & 1 for fpv kit) It can also house my fpv transmitter, osd & gps module along with a ubec too. i placed the camera on top of the canopy along with the cloverleaf aerial. despite the added weight it flies very well.Phoenix 1600 Review
I flew the Phoenix and was really satisfied at the performance and value of this airplane. It IS heavy but that is not a problem on our windy days. One thing to be careful of is the 44 gram weight (a piece of steel rod in a wooden box) hot glued to the nose of the glider. It can (and did) unstick itself from the fuselage and will make the glider tail heavy (this CG change results in an uncontrollable airplane!) when the weight slides to the back of the fuselage. I took out the 1300 MAH battery and substituted a 2200 lipo and adjusted the battery lock down velcro strap to correct the balance after removing the weight. You need the flaps to be connected as it glides forever when landing.The fastening wings is much more safe and durable, good HK!!!